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From: Alexander Shishkin <virtuoso@slind.org>
To: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Kyle Moffett <kyle@moffetthome.net>,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Chris Friesen <chris.friesen@genband.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Alexander Shishkin <virtuoso@slind.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 0/7] system time changes notification
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:29:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101117212912.GC26184@shisha.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1011171130210.1595@davide-lnx1>

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:42:52PM -0800, Davide Libenzi wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
> 
> > > But what you folks really want for this stuff is an extension to
> > > timerfd as you want to be able to poll, right?
> > > 
> > > So what about the following:
> > > 
> > > Add a new flag TDF_NOTIFY_CLOCK_WAS_SET to the timerfd flags. Now this
> > > flag adds the timer to a separate list, which gets woken up when the
> > > clock is set.
> > > 
> > > No new syscall, just a few lines of code in fs/timerfd.c and
> > > clock_was_set().
> > > 
> > > Thoughts ?
> > 
> > Something like this (sans ugliness)?
> 
> Oh, gosh, please.  This is interface-multiplexing-a-palooza.

Thomas made a suggestion, I came up with how it might look like so that
pros and cons are clearer to everyone (or at least me) and can be discussed
on technical grounds. Code talks, sort of. I'm not convinced that a timer
that returns to userspace when the clock changes is such a bad idea, could
you please elaborate?

> It should be decided if the feature makes sense, and then have proper 
> interface, instead of multiplexing unrelated insterfaces.

It is not a question any more.

> This is a sort of system-event-report pattern.  What is wrong with using a 
> netlink-based transport for those kind of things?

What is wrong with eventfd-based implementation that's already there?

Thanks,
--
Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-17 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-11 19:29 Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 19:29 ` [PATCHv6 1/7] notify userspace about time changes Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 20:55   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-11 19:29 ` [PATCHv6 2/7] wire up sys_time_change_notify() on ARM Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 19:29 ` [PATCHv6 3/7] wire up sys_time_change_notify() on x86 Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 19:29 ` [PATCHv6 4/7] wire up sys_time_change_notify() on ia64 Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 19:30 ` [PATCHv6 5/7] wire up sys_time_change_notify() on s390 Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 19:30 ` [PATCHv6 6/7] wire up sys_time_change_notify() on powerpc Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 19:30 ` [PATCHv6 7/7] wire up sys_time_change_notify() on blackfin Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 20:28 ` [PATCHv6 0/7] system time changes notification Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-11 20:51   ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 21:16     ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-11 22:11       ` Kyle Moffett
2010-11-11 22:36         ` john stultz
2010-11-11 23:19           ` Kyle Moffett
2010-11-11 23:41             ` john stultz
2010-11-11 23:45             ` john stultz
2010-11-11 22:50         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-12  2:35           ` Davide Libenzi
2010-11-17 19:06           ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-17 20:42             ` Davide Libenzi
2010-11-17 21:29               ` Alexander Shishkin [this message]
2010-11-17 21:34                 ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-18 15:59                   ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-17 21:46                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-18  9:49                   ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-18 13:08               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-11-12  9:25         ` Alan Cox
2010-11-12 10:53           ` Richard Cochran
2010-11-12 11:25             ` Alan Cox
2010-11-12 10:47       ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-12 12:30       ` Alexander Shishkin

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