From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Kyle Moffett <kyle@moffetthome.net>
Cc: Alexander Shishkin <virtuoso@slind.org>,
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
Chris Friesen <chris.friesen@genband.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 0/7] system time changes notification
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:50:38 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1011112322280.2900@localhost6.localdomain6> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik8FS5p_P_2ygh9qC2qg7wTDP+23LKbhJCKcMez@mail.gmail.com>
B1;2401;0cOn Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Kyle Moffett wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 16:16, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> > The notification itself is pointless unless your application is
> > dealing with timers which need to be adjusted the one way or the
> > other.
> >
> > That said, I'm still not convinced that this usecase justifies a new
> > systemcall.
> >
> > 1) We can make timers wake up when a clock change happens
> > 2) Can't we use existing notification stuff like uevents or such ?
>
> What about maybe adding device nodes for various kinds of "clock"
> devices? You could then do:
>
> #define CLOCK_FD 0x80000000
> fd = open("/dev/clock/realtime", O_RDWR);
> poll(fd);
> clock_gettime(CLOCK_FD|fd, &ts);
That won't work due to the posix-cputimers occupying the negative
number space already.
> [...]
>
> This would also enable the folks who want to support things like PHY
> hardware clocks (for very-low-latency ethernet timestamping). It
> would resolve the enumeration problem; instead of 0, 1, 2, ... as
> constants, they would show up in sysfs and be open()able. Ideally you
> would be able to set up ntpd to slew the "realtime" clock by following
> a particular hardware clock, or vice versa.
There are other plans for the various interesting clocks floating
around which look pretty good.
But what you folks really want for this stuff is an extension to
timerfd as you want to be able to poll, right?
So what about the following:
Add a new flag TDF_NOTIFY_CLOCK_WAS_SET to the timerfd flags. Now this
flag adds the timer to a separate list, which gets woken up when the
clock is set.
No new syscall, just a few lines of code in fs/timerfd.c and
clock_was_set().
Thoughts ?
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-11 22:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-11 19:29 Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 19:29 ` [PATCHv6 1/7] notify userspace about time changes Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 20:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-11 19:29 ` [PATCHv6 2/7] wire up sys_time_change_notify() on ARM Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 19:29 ` [PATCHv6 3/7] wire up sys_time_change_notify() on x86 Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 19:29 ` [PATCHv6 4/7] wire up sys_time_change_notify() on ia64 Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 19:30 ` [PATCHv6 5/7] wire up sys_time_change_notify() on s390 Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 19:30 ` [PATCHv6 6/7] wire up sys_time_change_notify() on powerpc Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 19:30 ` [PATCHv6 7/7] wire up sys_time_change_notify() on blackfin Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 20:28 ` [PATCHv6 0/7] system time changes notification Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-11 20:51 ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-11 21:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-11 22:11 ` Kyle Moffett
2010-11-11 22:36 ` john stultz
2010-11-11 23:19 ` Kyle Moffett
2010-11-11 23:41 ` john stultz
2010-11-11 23:45 ` john stultz
2010-11-11 22:50 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2010-11-12 2:35 ` Davide Libenzi
2010-11-17 19:06 ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-17 20:42 ` Davide Libenzi
2010-11-17 21:29 ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-17 21:34 ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-18 15:59 ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-17 21:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-11-18 9:49 ` Alexander Shishkin
2010-11-18 13:08 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2010-11-12 9:25 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-12 10:53 ` Richard Cochran
2010-11-12 11:25 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-12 10:47 ` Kay Sievers
2010-11-12 12:30 ` Alexander Shishkin
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