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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: roland@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	rjw@sisk.pl, jan.kratochvil@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/16] ptrace: make group stop notification reliable against ptrace
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 12:54:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101222115409.GB30266@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101221174319.GH13285@htj.dyndns.org>

On 12/21, Tejun Heo wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 06:34:25PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 12/06, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > >
> > > This patch adds a new signal flag SIGNAL_NOTIFY_STOP which is set on
> > > group stop completion and cleared on notification to the real parent
> > > or together with other stopped flags on SIGCONT/KILL.  This guarantees
> > > that the real parent is notified correctly regardless of ptrace.
> >
> > OK, I am a bit confused. I do not understand exactly what this
> > "correctly" actually means.
>
> It means that the ptracer wouldn't eat the notification.  The
> notification is buffered and delivered when ptrace detaches.

Yes, I understand. I am a bit worried it is not easy to describe the
new behaviour exactly.

> I see.  My focus was to make ptrace attach/detach transparent.  IOW,
> minimizing the effect of a debugger (or gcore or whatever) attaching
> and then leaving.  So, this patch just makes sure that the
> notification isn't absorbed by a ptracer.

Agreed. And the code itself certainly becomes correct/consistent,
contrary to "everything is broken" we currently have.


Tejun, I'll try to summarize my (very foggy) concerns in a separate
email. Don't get me wrong, I think this series rightly addresses the
numerous problems we have. My only question is, can't we go a bit
further and create the new (and simple) rules. Probably not.

> > > @@ -1901,21 +1925,12 @@ retry:
> > >  	__set_current_state(TASK_STOPPED);
> > >
> > >  	if (likely(!task_ptrace(current))) {
> > > -		int notify = 0;
> > > -
> > > -		/*
> > > -		 * If there are no other threads in the group, or if there
> > > -		 * is a group stop in progress and we are the last to stop,
> > > -		 * report to the parent.
> > > -		 */
> > > -		if (task_participate_group_stop(current))
> > > -			notify = CLD_STOPPED;
> > > -
> > > +		task_participate_group_stop(current);
> > >  		spin_unlock_irq(&current->sighand->siglock);
> > >
> > > -		if (notify) {
> > > +		if (sig->flags & SIGNAL_NOTIFY_STOP) {
> > >  			read_lock(&tasklist_lock);
> > > -			do_notify_parent_cldstop(current, notify);
> > > +			do_notify_parent_cldstop(current, CLD_STOPPED);
> >
> > Suppose that debugger attaches right after spin_unlock(->siglock).
> >
> > Nothing really bad can happen afaics, but in this case the debugger
> > will be notified twice. Hmm. If the debugger does do_wait() immediately
> > after the first notification, it has all rights to see the stopped
> > tracee but wait_task_stopped() fails, not good.
>
> Hmmm?  ptrace_attach() can't happen while tasklist_lock is held.

Sure, but is is not held after we drop ->siglock. And ptrace_attach() can
happen in the window before we take it for do_notify_parent_cldstop().

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-22 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-06 16:56 [PATCHSET] ptrace,signal: sane interaction between ptrace and job control signals, take#2 Tejun Heo
2010-12-06 16:56 ` [PATCH 01/16] signal: fix SIGCONT notification code Tejun Heo
2010-12-06 16:56 ` [PATCH 02/16] signal: fix CLD_CONTINUED notification target Tejun Heo
2010-12-20 14:58   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-21 16:31     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-06 16:56 ` [PATCH 03/16] signal: remove superflous try_to_freeze() loop in do_signal_stop() Tejun Heo
2010-12-20 14:59   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-06 16:56 ` [PATCH 04/16] ptrace: kill tracehook_notify_jctl() Tejun Heo
2010-12-20 14:59   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-21 17:00     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-06 16:56 ` [PATCH 05/16] ptrace: add @why to ptrace_stop() Tejun Heo
2010-12-06 16:56 ` [PATCH 06/16] signal: fix premature completion of group stop when interfered by ptrace Tejun Heo
2010-12-20 15:00   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-21 17:04     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-06 16:56 ` [PATCH 07/16] signal: use GROUP_STOP_PENDING to stop once for a single group stop Tejun Heo
2010-12-06 16:56 ` [PATCH 08/16] ptrace: participate in group stop from ptrace_stop() iff the task is trapping for " Tejun Heo
2010-12-06 16:56 ` [PATCH 09/16] ptrace: make do_signal_stop() use ptrace_stop() if the task is being ptraced Tejun Heo
2010-12-23 12:26   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-23 13:53     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-23 16:06       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-23 16:33         ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-17 22:09     ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-27 13:56       ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-28 20:30         ` Roland McGrath
2011-01-31 14:39           ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-06 16:56 ` [PATCH 10/16] ptrace: clean transitions between TASK_STOPPED and TRACED Tejun Heo
2010-12-20 15:00   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-21 17:31     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-21 17:32       ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-22 10:54       ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-22 11:39       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-22 15:14         ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-22 16:00           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-22 16:21             ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-06 16:56 ` [PATCH 11/16] signal: prepare for CLD_* notification changes Tejun Heo
2010-12-20 16:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-20 16:23     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-21 17:35     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-06 16:57 ` [PATCH 12/16] ptrace: make group stop notification reliable against ptrace Tejun Heo
2010-12-20 17:34   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-21 17:43     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-22 11:54       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-12-22 15:26         ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-22 16:02           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-06 16:57 ` [PATCH 13/16] ptrace: reorganize __ptrace_unlink() and ptrace_untrace() Tejun Heo
2010-12-20 18:15   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-21 17:54     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-06 16:57 ` [PATCH 14/16] ptrace: make SIGCONT notification reliable against ptrace Tejun Heo
2010-12-20 19:43   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-21 17:48     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-22 12:16       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-21 17:25   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-22 10:35     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-06 16:57 ` [PATCH 15/16] ptrace: make sure SIGNAL_NOTIFY_CONT is checked after ptrace_signal() Tejun Heo
2010-12-06 16:57 ` [PATCH 16/16] ptrace: remove the extra wake_up_process() from ptrace_detach() Tejun Heo
2010-12-07  0:10   ` Roland McGrath
2010-12-07 13:43     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-21 17:54   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-22 10:36     ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-14 17:36 ` [PATCHSET] ptrace,signal: sane interaction between ptrace and job control signals, take#2 Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-14 17:46   ` Tejun Heo
2010-12-22 15:20 ` Oleg Nesterov

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