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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL rcu/next] rcu commits for 2.6.40
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 00:48:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110516074822.GE2573@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110516070808.GC24836@elte.hu>

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 09:08:08AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > > Would it have been possible to split it in two, one for the movement of the 
> > > notifiers, the other for the barrier changes?
> > > 
> > > That way the bisection would have fingered the movement commit. Or so.
> > 
> > In hindsight, that certainly would have been better.
> 
> This is the Linux kernel and we *can* turn back the clock!

Yay for source-code control systems in general and git in particular!  ;-)

> > I was afraid of that...
> > 
> > On the off-chance that moving the memory barriers was at fault, the following 
> > patch restores all of them that don't have in situ replacements.  Grasping at 
> > straws, admittedly.
> 
> Well, the nice thing is that we really do not have to grasp at straws, and even 
> while we have no good ideas we can debug this *much* better.
> 
> Could you please do a simple test-tree that does has 3 commits:
> 
>  first one reverts the offending commit
>  second one applies the barrier part of it
>  this one applies the need_resched part of it
> 
> ( You can do even more finegrained steps, if you find harmless-looking bits of 
>   it that can be applied separately! )
> 
> Note, the important thing is that the tree should be a 'null pull' - i.e. the 
> revert plus the patches applied will not change anything in core/rcu.
> 
> Obviously it would be nice if each step built fine - no need to boot test each 
> step as long as you are reasonably sure it will boot fine.
> 
> Then i could take my reproducer and come up with a very precise bisection 
> result for you, with just a couple of minutes time spent on testing. One of the 
> commits after the revert will trigger the hang/slowdown.
> 
> My prediction is that we will be much wiser after that! :-)

I will put this together!

In the meantime, would you be willing to try out the patch at
https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/14/89?  This patch helped out Yinghai
in several configurations.

						Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-16  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-08 15:18 Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-09  7:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-09 21:09   ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-10  8:56     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-10  9:37       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-10 18:04       ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-10 19:32         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-10 20:52           ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-11  4:54             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-11  6:03               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-11  6:42               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-11 20:13                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-11 16:54               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-11 16:56               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-11 20:18                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-11 20:59                   ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-11 21:30                     ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-11 23:02                       ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-12  6:03                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12  7:27                           ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-12  7:42                             ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-12  9:20                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-12 17:31                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-12 21:36                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-13  1:28                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-13  8:42                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 12:19                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 13:04                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 13:12                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 14:14                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-13 15:07                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 16:26                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16  7:08                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16  7:48                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2011-05-16 11:51                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 12:23                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 14:30                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 21:33                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16 22:07                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16 21:24                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16 23:52                                                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-17  2:40                                                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-17  7:53                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-17 12:43                                                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-17 22:21                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-18 21:10                                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-18 23:13                                                                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-19  4:33                                                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-19 14:47                                                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-19 19:51                                                                       ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-19 21:15                                                                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-19 21:45                                                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-20  0:09                                                                             ` [PATCH] rcu: Fix unpaired rcu_irq_enter() from locking selftests Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-20  8:36                                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-20 15:12                                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-20 15:11                                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-20  0:14                                                                             ` [GIT PULL rcu/next] rcu commits for 2.6.40 Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-13 14:40                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 16:38                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16  7:10                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 21:08                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-14 14:26                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-14 15:31                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-14 18:34                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-15  3:59                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-15  4:14                                           ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-15  5:41                                             ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-15  5:49                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2011-05-15  6:04                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-15  6:59                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16  7:08                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16  7:39                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-15  6:01                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-15 22:01                                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-16  5:56                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-05-16 22:40                                               ` Frederic Weisbecker

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