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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ptrace: make former thread ID available via PTRACE_GETEVENTMSG after PTRACE_EVENT_EXEC stop (v.2)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:38:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110628123823.GD3386@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTik2KqKGwBAqN+CSz7_ergx5VM9x4A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 02:30:36PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 05:18:27PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > Yeah, but that's a pretty silly way to do it.  If we make it depend on
> > PT_SEIZED, we can simply say "if seized, EXEC reports..." but as it
> > currently stands, it would go like "If the message is non-zero on
> > EXEC, it indicates...  This behavior is valid since kernel version
> > x.x.x".
> 
> This is true for any new addition to API.
> It starts from some kernel version.

Hmmm... but as I wrote above, we have a choice to make here and the
two options are clearly different?

> > Maybe adding a guarantee that PTRACE_SEIZE capable kernel
> > always reports the old pid on EXEC but that would still seem
> > unnecessarily complicated.  It isn't a bug fix.  I don't see much
> > point in introducing new behavior separately.
> 
> This new feature looks orthogonal to PTRACE_SEIZE to me.

Yeah, sure, but we're bundling a number of behavior changes with
PT_SEIZED because it's impractical to introduce each with its own
compatibility / feature test bits, so it makes sense to do the same
with this one, I think.  It's not like there's a lot to gain by
supporting this outside of SEIZE anyway.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-28 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-26 19:08 Denys Vlasenko
2011-06-26 20:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-06-27  8:11   ` Tejun Heo
2011-06-27 13:47     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-06-27 13:52       ` Tejun Heo
2011-06-27 15:18         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-06-28  8:25           ` Tejun Heo
2011-06-28 12:30             ` Denys Vlasenko
2011-06-28 12:38               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2011-06-28 16:35                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-06-28 16:49                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-06-28  0:31   ` Denys Vlasenko

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