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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/4] Add routine for generating an ID for kernel pointer
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:23:44 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111227152344.c8c140d3.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111223124920.661126615@openvz.org>

On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:47:42 +0400
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org> wrote:

> The routine XORs the given pointer with a random value
> producing an ID (32 or 64 bit, depending on the arch).
> 
> Since it's a valuable information -- only CAP_SYS_ADMIN
> is allowed to obtain it.
> 
>  - Tejun worried about the single poison value was a weak side -
>    leaking one makes all the IDs vulnerable. To address this
>    several poison values - one per object type - are introduced.
>    They are stored in a plain array.
>  - Pekka proposed to initialized poison values in the late_initcall callback
>  - ... and move the code to mm/util.c

I'm trying to remember what this is all about, and I don't want to have
to remember all the discussion from last time this came up!

Please, do cover all this in the changelogs: tell us what the code is
all for and try to capture the design decisions thus far.  It's a
useful reminder for current reviewers and is very valuable for new
reviewers.

The root-only restriction sounds like a pretty bad one.  I suspect it
really isn't that bad but again, the changelog should discuss the pros
and cons here.


A thought: if all we're trying to do here is to check for the sameness
of objects, can we push the comparison into the kernel so we don't have
this exporting-sensitive-info problem at all?  Just return a boolean to
userspace?

Something like

int sys_pid_fields_equal(pid_t pid1, pid_t pid2, enum pid_field field_id);

?

For /proc/pid/fdinfo/* userspace can open /proc/pid1/fdinfo/0 and
/proc/pid2/fdinfo/0 and call sys_are_these_files_the_same(fd1, fd2, ...).

Perhaps sys_pid_fields_equal() can use sys_are_these_files_the_same()
as well, if we can think up a way of passing it two fds to represent
the two pids.

Have a think about it ;)

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-27 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-23 12:47 [patch 0/4] generic object ids, v2 Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-23 12:47 ` [patch 1/4] Add routine for generating an ID for kernel pointer Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-27 23:23   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2011-12-28  7:42     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28  9:42       ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-28  9:43         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28  9:47     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-12-28 10:41       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-27 23:33   ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-28  0:48     ` Randy Dunlap
2011-12-28  7:24       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-27 23:54   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-12-28  0:02     ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-28  7:22       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28 16:06   ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-28 16:18     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28 16:26       ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-28 16:40         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28 16:45           ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-28 16:53             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28 17:01               ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-28 17:14                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-29 14:24                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-29 16:14                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-29 16:24                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-30  0:23                         ` Herbert Xu
2011-12-30  7:36                           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-30 20:31                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-12-30 20:48                               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-30 23:51                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-12-31  7:51                                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-02 12:18                                     ` bastien ROUCARIES
2012-01-02 21:14                                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-31  4:55                         ` Kyle Moffett
2011-12-31  7:57                           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-23 12:47 ` [patch 2/4] proc: Show namespaces IDs in /proc/pid/ns/* files Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-04  6:02   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-04 11:26     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-04 17:56       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-04 18:19         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-23 12:47 ` [patch 3/4] proc: Show open file ID in /proc/pid/fdinfo/* Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-23 12:47 ` [patch 4/4] proc: Show IDs of objects cloned with CLONE_ in proc Cyrill Gorcunov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-12-22 12:56 [patch 0/4] kernel generic object IDs series Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-22 12:56 ` [patch 1/4] Add routine for generating an ID for kernel pointer Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28 16:51   ` Alan Cox
2011-12-28 17:05     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28 17:21       ` Alan Cox
2011-12-28 17:35         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28 19:48           ` Cyrill Gorcunov

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