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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 2/4] proc: Show namespaces IDs in /proc/pid/ns/* files
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 22:02:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1d3b0gg3r.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111223124920.725686255@openvz.org> (Cyrill Gorcunov's message of "Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:47:43 +0400")

Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org> writes:

> This patch adds proc_ns_read method which provides
> IDs for /proc/pid/ns/* files.

Nacked-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>

This is a poorly thought out user interface.  If we are going to return
this kind of information and I believe we should we should, we should
return the id in the inode field with stat.

Comparing device+inode for equality is the traditional way to see if
two objects are the same in unix and there is no reason to make up
a new interface to get this functionality.

Furthermore we should always return the information, as it is valuable
even outside of the checkpoint/restart context.

I am also concerned that you appear to be building an interface
for use by checkpoint/restart that makes it impossible
checkpoint/restart the programs using that interface.  The reason
is that you appear to be  putting this nebulous id into a global 
namespace and as such even if we wanted to I don't see how we could
build a version where we could restore the id during a restart.  And
the thing is if you start building interfaces with identifiers you can
not possibly restore I expect you will find you have painted yourself
into a corner.

Using inode from stat avoids painting yourself into a corner because
you have the possibility of different mounts with different device
numbers having different inode numbers.

For the short term I don't see value in being able to restore the
object identifiers, but I do see a lot of value in allowing for a future
where nested checkpoint/restart is an option.

Eric


> Based-on-patch-from: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
> Signed-off-by: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>
> CC: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
> CC: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
> CC: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
> CC: Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>
> CC: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
> CC: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
> CC: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
> CC: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> CC: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt |   24 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  fs/proc/namespaces.c               |   22 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>  include/linux/gen_obj_id.h         |    1 +
>  3 files changed, 47 insertions(+)
>
> Index: linux-2.6.git/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-2.6.git.orig/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
> +++ linux-2.6.git/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
> @@ -40,6 +40,7 @@ Table of Contents
>    3.4	/proc/<pid>/coredump_filter - Core dump filtering settings
>    3.5	/proc/<pid>/mountinfo - Information about mounts
>    3.6	/proc/<pid>/comm  & /proc/<pid>/task/<tid>/comm
> +  3.7	/proc/<pid>/ns - Information about namespaces
>  
>  
>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> @@ -1545,3 +1546,26 @@ a task to set its own or one of its thre
>  is limited in size compared to the cmdline value, so writing anything longer
>  then the kernel's TASK_COMM_LEN (currently 16 chars) will result in a truncated
>  comm value.
> +
> +3.7	/proc/<pid>/ns - Information about namespaces
> +-----------------------------------------------------
> +
> +This directory consists of the following files "net", "uts", "ipc",
> +and depend if appropriate CONFIG_ entry is set, i.e. it's possible
> +to have only one, two or all three files here.
> +
> +Currently file contents provides that named "object id" number, which
> +is a number useful for the one purpose only -- to test if two differen
> +<pid> share the namespace.
> +
> +A typical format is
> +
> +id:	445332486300860161
> +
> +i.e. "id" followed by a number. One should never assume the number
> +means something, it is only useful for "sameness" test with another number
> +obtained from another <pid>.
> +
> +Moreover, a safe approach is to remember it as a string, since format may
> +change in future and id would be not a long integer value, but something
> +else, say SHA1/2 or even uuid encoded stream.
> Index: linux-2.6.git/fs/proc/namespaces.c
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-2.6.git.orig/fs/proc/namespaces.c
> +++ linux-2.6.git/fs/proc/namespaces.c
> @@ -12,6 +12,7 @@
>  #include <linux/mnt_namespace.h>
>  #include <linux/ipc_namespace.h>
>  #include <linux/pid_namespace.h>
> +#include <linux/gen_obj_id.h>
>  #include "internal.h"
>  
>  
> @@ -27,10 +28,31 @@ static const struct proc_ns_operations *
>  #endif
>  };
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_GENERIC_OBJECT_ID
> +static ssize_t proc_ns_read(struct file *file, char __user *buf,
> +				      size_t len, loff_t *ppos)
> +{
> +	struct proc_inode *ei = PROC_I(file->f_dentry->d_inode);
> +	char tmp[32];
> +
> +	snprintf(tmp, sizeof(tmp), "id:\t%lu\n",
> +		gen_obj_id(ei->ns, GEN_OBJ_ID_NS));
> +	return simple_read_from_buffer(buf, len, ppos, tmp, strlen(tmp));
> +}
> +
> +static const struct file_operations ns_file_operations = {
> +	.llseek		= no_llseek,
> +	.read		= proc_ns_read,
> +};
> +
> +#else
> +
>  static const struct file_operations ns_file_operations = {
>  	.llseek		= no_llseek,
>  };
>  
> +#endif /* CONFIG_GENERIC_OBJECT_ID */
> +
>  static struct dentry *proc_ns_instantiate(struct inode *dir,
>  	struct dentry *dentry, struct task_struct *task, const void *ptr)
>  {
> Index: linux-2.6.git/include/linux/gen_obj_id.h
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-2.6.git.orig/include/linux/gen_obj_id.h
> +++ linux-2.6.git/include/linux/gen_obj_id.h
> @@ -4,6 +4,7 @@
>  #ifdef __KERNEL__
>  
>  enum {
> +	GEN_OBJ_ID_NS,
>  	GEN_OBJ_ID_TYPES,
>  };
>  
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-04  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-23 12:47 [patch 0/4] generic object ids, v2 Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-23 12:47 ` [patch 1/4] Add routine for generating an ID for kernel pointer Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-27 23:23   ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-28  7:42     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28  9:42       ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-28  9:43         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28  9:47     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-12-28 10:41       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-27 23:33   ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-28  0:48     ` Randy Dunlap
2011-12-28  7:24       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-27 23:54   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-12-28  0:02     ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-28  7:22       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28 16:06   ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-28 16:18     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28 16:26       ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-28 16:40         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28 16:45           ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-28 16:53             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-28 17:01               ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-28 17:14                 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-29 14:24                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-29 16:14                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-29 16:24                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-30  0:23                         ` Herbert Xu
2011-12-30  7:36                           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-30 20:31                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-12-30 20:48                               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-30 23:51                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-12-31  7:51                                   ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-02 12:18                                     ` bastien ROUCARIES
2012-01-02 21:14                                       ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-31  4:55                         ` Kyle Moffett
2011-12-31  7:57                           ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-23 12:47 ` [patch 2/4] proc: Show namespaces IDs in /proc/pid/ns/* files Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-04  6:02   ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2012-01-04 11:26     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-01-04 17:56       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-04 18:19         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-23 12:47 ` [patch 3/4] proc: Show open file ID in /proc/pid/fdinfo/* Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-23 12:47 ` [patch 4/4] proc: Show IDs of objects cloned with CLONE_ in proc Cyrill Gorcunov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-12-22 12:56 [patch 0/4] kernel generic object IDs series Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-22 12:56 ` [patch 2/4] proc: Show namespaces IDs in /proc/pid/ns/* files Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-11-17  9:55 [PATCH v2 0/4] Checkpoint/Restore: Show in proc IDs of objects that can be shared between tasks Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17  9:56 ` [PATCH 2/4] proc: Show namespaces IDs in /proc/pid/ns/* files Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-15 11:35 [PATCH 0/4] Checkpoint/Restore: Show in proc IDs of objects that can be shared between tasks Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-15 11:36 ` [PATCH 2/4] proc: Show namespaces IDs in /proc/pid/ns/* files Pavel Emelyanov

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