From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.de>,
Chris Friesen <chris.friesen@genband.com>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Second attempt at kernel secure boot support
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 15:11:35 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121101151135.6211b2fb@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACLa4pvh3v3Mhq8oe3dzRL8ytBgmitPkCGUSfVCR5WdQopjRMQ@mail.gmail.com>
> would get keys revoked. If your key is revoke Linux can't boot on a
> large amount of new hardware without BIOS twiddling.
See "live free or die". If you want to live in a world where you can't
even fart before checking if the man from Microsoft will revoke your key
you might as well go home now.
> The point of secureboot is even if the admin did something which
> allowed his kernel to be compromised, it won't persist. Sure,
> secureboot moves the attack up the stack to userspace, but at least we
> can do something about the kernel.
Nice theory.
At the end of the day I don't care if you want to produce this stuff and
sell it to people. Fine, the interface proposed is clean enough that it
doesn't pee on other work, but don't expect the rest of the world to
follow mindlessly into your slave pit driven by your fear.
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-01 15:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 224+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-20 14:40 Matthew Garrett
2012-09-20 14:40 ` [PATCH V2 01/10] Secure boot: Add new capability Matthew Garrett
2012-09-28 3:10 ` Serge Hallyn
2012-10-20 0:15 ` joeyli
2012-10-20 9:02 ` Matt Fleming
2012-09-20 14:40 ` [PATCH V2 02/10] PCI: Lock down BAR access in secure boot environments Matthew Garrett
2012-09-20 14:40 ` [PATCH V2 03/10] x86: Lock down IO port " Matthew Garrett
2012-09-20 14:40 ` [PATCH V2 04/10] ACPI: Limit access to custom_method Matthew Garrett
2012-09-20 14:41 ` [PATCH V2 05/10] asus-wmi: Restrict debugfs interface Matthew Garrett
2012-09-20 14:41 ` [PATCH V2 06/10] Restrict /dev/mem and /dev/kmem in secure boot setups Matthew Garrett
2012-09-20 14:41 ` [PATCH V2 07/10] Secure boot: Add a dummy kernel parameter that will switch on Secure Boot mode Matthew Garrett
2012-09-20 16:32 ` Greg KH
2012-09-20 17:40 ` Josh Boyer
2012-09-25 13:08 ` [PATCH V3 " Josh Boyer
2012-10-29 9:00 ` joeyli
2012-10-30 17:48 ` Josh Boyer
2012-10-30 19:27 ` joeyli
2012-09-21 8:20 ` [PATCH V2 " joeyli
2012-09-28 3:20 ` Serge Hallyn
2012-09-20 14:41 ` [PATCH V2 08/10] efi: Enable secure boot lockdown automatically when enabled in firmware Matthew Garrett
2012-09-28 3:21 ` Serge Hallyn
2012-10-22 13:22 ` Matt Fleming
2012-09-20 14:41 ` [PATCH V2 09/10] acpi: Ignore acpi_rsdp kernel parameter in a secure boot environment Matthew Garrett
2012-09-20 14:41 ` [PATCH V2 10/10] SELinux: define mapping for new Secure Boot capability Matthew Garrett
2012-09-21 22:55 ` [RFC] Second attempt at kernel secure boot support Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-22 15:21 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-10-29 7:49 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-29 17:41 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-10-31 14:50 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-31 14:54 ` Josh Boyer
2012-10-31 14:59 ` Shea Levy
2012-10-31 15:55 ` Alan Cox
2012-10-31 15:55 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-31 17:03 ` Alan Cox
2012-10-31 17:01 ` Shea Levy
2012-10-31 17:17 ` Alan Cox
2012-10-31 17:10 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-10-31 17:21 ` Alan Cox
2012-10-31 17:17 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-10-31 17:39 ` Alan Cox
2012-10-31 17:37 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-10-31 17:49 ` Alan Cox
2012-10-31 17:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-10-31 20:14 ` Oliver Neukum
2012-10-31 21:58 ` Chris Friesen
2012-10-31 22:00 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-31 22:19 ` Oliver Neukum
2012-11-01 9:08 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-01 9:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-11-01 9:38 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-01 9:45 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-11-01 9:59 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-01 10:06 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-11-01 14:29 ` Eric Paris
2012-11-01 14:42 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-01 14:49 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-01 15:06 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-01 15:17 ` Eric Paris
2012-11-01 16:26 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-01 15:06 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-01 16:29 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-01 16:40 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-01 14:59 ` Eric Paris
2012-11-01 15:11 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2012-11-01 15:18 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-01 17:50 ` Eric Paris
2012-11-01 21:03 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-01 21:06 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-01 21:14 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-01 21:18 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-01 21:35 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-01 21:31 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-01 21:28 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-01 21:37 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-01 21:34 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-01 21:58 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-01 21:57 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-02 8:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-02 14:00 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-02 22:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-02 22:19 ` Chris Friesen
2012-11-02 23:46 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-03 0:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-03 0:55 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-03 0:20 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-03 0:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-03 1:03 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-03 1:43 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-03 16:31 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-03 16:37 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-03 16:37 ` Eric Paris
2012-11-03 16:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-02 17:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-01 14:46 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-01 15:04 ` Eric Paris
2012-11-01 20:27 ` Pavel Machek
2012-11-01 21:02 ` Chris Friesen
2012-11-02 15:48 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-02 16:54 ` Chris Friesen
2012-11-02 17:03 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-03 23:09 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-11-05 6:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-05 14:40 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-11-05 15:31 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-11-05 15:37 ` Chris Friesen
2012-11-05 18:22 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-02 16:33 ` Pavel Machek
2012-11-02 16:52 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-02 16:54 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-02 17:48 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-02 17:54 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-02 17:57 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-02 18:04 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-02 19:18 ` Eric Paris
2012-11-02 23:38 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-03 0:22 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-03 12:03 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-03 13:46 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-03 22:56 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-04 4:28 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-04 9:14 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-04 13:52 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-05 6:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-05 7:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-05 7:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-05 7:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-05 8:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-05 8:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-05 12:38 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-05 13:44 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-05 13:46 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-05 19:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-05 20:25 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-06 2:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-06 3:12 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-06 3:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-06 3:53 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-06 5:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-06 5:34 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-06 7:56 ` Florian Weimer
2012-11-06 15:14 ` Chris Friesen
2012-11-06 15:19 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-11-06 21:51 ` Florian Weimer
2012-11-06 21:55 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-06 22:06 ` Florian Weimer
2012-11-06 22:31 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-06 22:49 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-06 22:47 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <CAMFK0gt7oAr4ArD8FmD8QE+i4g4rSTmQjbbLcjs02xwQeXGx-A@mail.gmail.com>
2012-11-07 14:55 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-08 10:18 ` James Courtier-Dutton
[not found] ` <CAAMvbhFF=kb8TJ4oE+40Zrx7HD1OkD0NOYj7QEZegZKGtqDm_A@mail.gmail.com>
2012-11-08 11:19 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-06 9:12 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-06 13:17 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-06 8:13 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2012-11-05 8:20 ` James Bottomley
2012-11-05 12:36 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-04 11:53 ` Pavel Machek
2012-11-05 21:25 ` Florian Weimer
2012-11-02 14:55 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-01 10:12 ` Oliver Neukum
2012-10-31 17:21 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-31 15:56 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-10-31 17:08 ` Alan Cox
2012-10-31 17:08 ` Shea Levy
2012-10-31 16:04 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-31 16:10 ` Josh Boyer
2012-10-31 15:02 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-10-31 15:05 ` Shea Levy
2012-10-31 15:09 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-02 15:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-02 15:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-11-02 15:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-02 16:22 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-11-02 18:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-11-02 16:35 ` Shuah Khan
2012-11-06 12:51 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-11-06 13:16 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-10-31 17:28 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-10-31 17:37 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-10-31 17:44 ` Alan Cox
2012-10-31 17:44 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-10-31 18:53 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-11-01 4:21 ` joeyli
2012-11-01 13:18 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-05 17:13 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-11-05 17:18 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] Add firmware signature file check Takashi Iwai
2012-11-05 17:19 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] scripts/sign-file: Allow specifying hash algorithm via -a option Takashi Iwai
2012-11-05 17:19 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] scripts/sign-file: Support firmware signing Takashi Iwai
2012-11-05 17:20 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] firmware: Add a signature check Takashi Iwai
2012-11-06 6:03 ` Mimi Zohar
2012-11-05 17:20 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] firmware: Install signature files automatically Takashi Iwai
2012-11-05 18:12 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] Add firmware signature file check Takashi Iwai
2012-11-05 20:43 ` Josh Boyer
2012-11-06 6:46 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-11-06 9:20 ` Alan Cox
2012-11-06 10:05 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-11-06 2:30 ` Ming Lei
2012-11-06 5:46 ` lee joey
2012-11-06 7:03 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-11-06 7:16 ` Ming Lei
2012-11-06 7:32 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-11-06 8:04 ` Ming Lei
2012-11-06 8:18 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-11-06 10:04 ` Ming Lei
2012-11-06 10:17 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-11-06 10:40 ` Ming Lei
2012-11-06 10:53 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-11-06 11:03 ` Ming Lei
2012-11-06 11:15 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <CAGB3EUTrSMDhja9Gu3h7nuZX+H2_owp8MnUNwbZuCW=_GuawqQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-11-06 7:06 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-11-06 7:30 ` Ming Lei
2012-11-08 17:35 ` [PATCH RFC v2 " Takashi Iwai
2012-11-08 17:35 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/4] firmware: Add the firmware signing support to scripts/sign-file Takashi Iwai
2012-11-23 6:51 ` joeyli
2012-11-08 17:35 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/4] firmware: Add -a option " Takashi Iwai
2012-11-23 6:51 ` joeyli
2012-11-08 17:35 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/4] firmware: Add support for signature checks Takashi Iwai
2012-11-23 6:56 ` joeyli
2012-11-23 7:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-11-08 17:35 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/4] firmware: Install firmware signature files automatically Takashi Iwai
2012-11-23 6:52 ` joeyli
2012-11-06 0:01 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] Add firmware signature file check David Howells
2012-11-06 7:01 ` Takashi Iwai
2012-11-06 0:05 ` David Howells
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