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From: Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>
To: Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>
Cc: Vivek Gautam <gautamvivek1987@gmail.com>,
	Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@ti.com>,
	Vivek Gautam <gautam.vivek@samsung.com>,
	<linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	<sarah.a.sharp@linux.intel.com>, <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	<kgene.kim@samsung.com>, <dianders@chromium.org>,
	<t.figa@samsung.com>, <p.paneri@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/11] usb: phy: Add APIs for runtime power management
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 16:56:59 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130403135659.GH14680@arwen.pp.htv.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130403135414.GG14680@arwen.pp.htv.fi>

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Hi,

On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 04:54:14PM +0300, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> > >> >> +static inline void usb_phy_autopm_enable(struct usb_phy *x)
> > >> >> +{
> > >> >> +       if (!x || !x->dev) {
> > >> >> +               dev_err(x->dev, "no PHY or attached device available\n");
> > >> >> +               return;
> > >> >> +               }
> > >> >> +
> > >> >> +       pm_runtime_enable(x->dev);
> > >> >> +}
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > IMO we need not have wrapper APIs for runtime_enable and runtime_disable
> > >> > here. Generally runtime_enable and runtime_disable is done in probe and
> > >> > remove of a driver respectively. So it's better to leave the
> > >> > runtime_enable/runtime_disable to be done in *phy provider* driver than
> > >> > having an API for it to be done by *phy user* driver. Felipe, what do you
> > >> > think?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!!
> > >> That's very true, runtime_enable() and runtime_disable() calls are made by
> > >> *phy_provider* only. But a querry here.
> > >> Wouldn't in any case a PHY consumer might want to disable runtime_pm on PHY ?
> > >> Say, when consumer failed to suspend the PHY properly
> > >> (*put_sync(phy->dev)* fails), how much sure is the consumer about the
> > >> state of PHY ?
> > >
> > > no no, wait a minute. We might not want to enable runtime pm for the PHY
> > > until the UDC says it can handle runtime pm, no ? I guess this makes a
> > > bit of sense (at least in my head :-p).
> > >
> > > Imagine if PHY is runtime suspended but e.g. DWC3 isn't runtime pm
> > > enabled... Does it make sense to leave that control to the USB
> > > controller drivers ?
> > >
> > > I'm open for suggestions
> > 
> > Of course unless the PHY consumer can handle runtime PM for PHY,
> > PHY should not ideally be going into runtime_suspend.
> > 
> > Actually trying out few things, here are my observations
> > 
> > Enabling runtime_pm on PHY pushes PHY to go into runtime_suspend state.
> > But a device detection wakes up DWC3 controller, and if i don't wake
> > up PHY (using get_sync(phy->dev)) here
> > in runtime_resume() callback of DWC3, i don't get PHY back in active state.
> > So it becomes the duty of DWC3 controller to handle PHY's sleep and wake-up.
> > Thereby it becomes logical that DWC3 controller has the right to
> > enable runtime_pm
> > of PHY.
> > 
> > But there's a catch here. if there are multiple consumers of PHY (like
> > USB2 type PHY can
> > have DWC3 controller as well as EHCI/OHCI or even HSGadget) then in that case,
> > only one of the consumer can enable runtime_pm on PHY. So who decides this.
> > 
> > Aargh!! lot of confusion here :-(
> 
> 
> hmmm, maybe add a flag to struct usb_phy and check it on
> usb_phy_autopm_enable() ??
> 
> How does usbcore handle it ? They request class drivers to pass
> supports_autosuspend, but while we should have a similar flag, that's
> not enough. We also need a flag to tell us when pm_runtime has already
> been enabled.
> 
> So how about:
> 
> usb_phy_autopm_enable()
> {
> 	if (!phy->suports_autosuspend)
> 		return -ENOSYS;
> 
> 	if (phy->autosuspend_enabled)
> 		return 0;
> 
> 	phy->autosuspend_enabled = true;
> 	return pm_runtime_enable(phy->dev);
> }
> 
> ???

and of course I missed the fact that pm_runtime_enable returns nothing
:-) But you got my point.

-- 
balbi

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-03 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-01 13:53 [PATCH v3 00/11] usb: dwc3/xhci/phy: Enable " Vivek Gautam
2013-04-01 13:54 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] usb: phy: Add APIs for " Vivek Gautam
2013-04-02  8:23   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-04-02 10:34     ` Vivek Gautam
2013-04-02 12:10       ` Felipe Balbi
2013-04-02 12:40         ` Vivek Gautam
2013-04-18 11:50           ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-04-23 11:15             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-04-03  5:08   ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2013-04-03  6:18     ` Vivek Gautam
2013-04-03  8:15       ` Felipe Balbi
2013-04-03 13:12         ` Vivek Gautam
2013-04-03 13:54           ` Felipe Balbi
2013-04-03 13:56             ` Felipe Balbi [this message]
2013-04-03 14:10               ` Vivek Gautam
2013-04-03 14:18                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-04-03 14:42                   ` Vivek Gautam
2013-04-03 18:14                   ` Alan Stern
2013-04-04  7:18                     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-04-04  8:56                       ` Vivek Gautam
2013-04-04  9:26                         ` Felipe Balbi
2013-04-04 14:46                           ` Alan Stern
2013-04-23 12:42                             ` Vivek Gautam
2013-04-23 16:53                               ` Alan Stern
2013-04-23 18:05                                 ` Vivek Gautam
2013-04-23 18:12                                   ` Alan Stern
2013-04-24 13:12                                     ` Vivek Gautam
2013-04-01 13:54 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] USB: dwc3: Adjust runtime pm to allow autosuspend Vivek Gautam
2013-04-02  8:29   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-04-03  6:05     ` Vivek Gautam
2013-04-03  8:17       ` Felipe Balbi
2013-04-01 13:54 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] usb: dwc3: Enable runtime pm only after PHYs are initialized Vivek Gautam
2013-04-01 13:54 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] usb: dwc3: Add runtime power management callbacks Vivek Gautam
2013-04-02  8:32   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-04-03  4:59     ` Vivek Gautam
2013-04-01 13:54 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] usb: dwc3: exynos: Enable runtime power management Vivek Gautam
2013-04-02  8:33   ` Felipe Balbi
2013-04-01 13:54 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] usb: xhci: Enable runtime pm in xhci-plat Vivek Gautam
2013-04-01 13:54 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] usb: phy: samsung: Enable runtime power management on usb2phy Vivek Gautam
2013-04-01 13:54 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] usb: phy: samsung: Enable runtime power management on usb3phy Vivek Gautam
2013-04-01 13:54 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] usb: phy: samsung: Add support for external reference clock Vivek Gautam
2013-04-03 17:27 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] usb: dwc3/xhci/phy: Enable runtime power management Sarah Sharp
2013-04-04  5:04   ` Vivek Gautam
2013-04-04  7:10     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-04-04  7:32       ` Vivek Gautam
2013-04-04 16:40         ` Sarah Sharp

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