From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: frequent softlockups with 3.10rc6.
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 18:57:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130702165752.GA12179@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwZHOUCYvojbP9q3D5MDgCH7GttkUGiJerra9uyduFLKw@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue 02-07-13 09:13:43, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:05 AM, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> > On Tue 02-07-13 22:38:35, Dave Chinner wrote:
> >>
> >> IOWs, sync is 7-8x faster on a busy filesystem and does not have an
> >> adverse impact on ongoing async data write operations.
> > The patch looks good. You can add:
> > Reviewed-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
>
> Ok, I'm going to take this patch asap. Should we also mark it for
> stable? It doesn't look like a regression in that particular code, but
> it sounds like it might be a regression when paired with the way the
> flusher threads interact. Or is this really some long-time performance
> problem?
sync(2) was always slow in presence of heavy concurrent IO so I don't
think this is a stable material.
> I'm also wondering if we should just change all callers - remove that
> "wait for writeback to complete" from writeback_one_inode()
> completely, and just make sure that *all* callers that use WB_SYNC_ALL
> do the "wait for writeback" in a separate stage, the way "sync()"
> already does?
The trouble is with callers like write_inode_now() from iput_final().
For write_inode_now() to work correctly in that place, you must make sure
page writeback is finished before calling ->write_inode() because
filesystems may (and do) dirty the inode in their ->end_io callbacks. If
you don't wait you risk calling ->evict_inode() on a dirty inode and thus
loosing some updates.
> That whole
>
> if (wbc->sync_mode == WB_SYNC_ALL && !wbc->for_sync) {
>
> test doesn't really look all that sane (..so thanks Dave for adding a
> comment above it)
I agree the condition looks a bit fishy so it definitely deserves that
comment. The only way I see to avoid this strange condition is to move
do_writepages() from __writeback_single_inode() into the callers
(writeback_single_inode() and writeback_sb_inodes()) and the condition with
the wait would then be only in writeback_single_inode(). But we would also
have to duplicate the trace points so current solution looked a tad bit
better to me.
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR
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Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-19 16:45 Dave Jones
2013-06-19 17:53 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-19 18:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-19 18:42 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-20 0:12 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-20 16:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-20 16:27 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-21 15:11 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-21 19:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-22 1:37 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-22 17:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-22 21:59 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-23 5:00 ` Andrew Vagin
2013-06-23 14:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-23 15:06 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-23 16:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-24 0:21 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 2:00 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 14:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-24 14:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-24 16:00 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 16:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-24 16:51 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 17:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 16:55 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-25 17:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:26 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-25 17:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-25 17:34 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 16:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-24 16:49 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 15:57 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 17:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-24 17:44 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-24 17:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-24 18:00 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-25 15:35 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-25 16:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-26 5:23 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-26 19:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-26 20:00 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-27 3:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-26 5:48 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-26 19:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-06-26 19:40 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-27 0:22 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-27 1:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-06-27 2:32 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-27 7:55 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 10:06 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 12:52 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 15:21 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-28 1:13 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28 3:58 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28 10:28 ` Jan Kara
2013-06-29 3:39 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-01 12:00 ` Jan Kara
2013-07-02 6:29 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-02 8:19 ` Jan Kara
2013-07-02 12:38 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-02 14:05 ` Jan Kara
2013-07-02 16:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-02 16:57 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2013-07-02 17:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-03 3:07 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-03 3:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-07-03 4:49 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-04 7:19 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-29 20:13 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-29 22:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-29 23:44 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-30 0:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-01 12:49 ` Pavel Machek
2013-06-30 0:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-30 2:05 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-30 2:34 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 14:30 ` Dave Jones
2013-06-28 1:18 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28 2:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-28 3:54 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28 5:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-28 7:21 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28 8:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-28 8:32 ` Al Viro
2013-06-28 8:22 ` Al Viro
2013-06-28 9:49 ` Jan Kara
2013-07-01 17:57 ` block layer softlockup Dave Jones
2013-07-02 2:07 ` Dave Chinner
2013-07-02 6:01 ` Dave Jones
2013-07-02 7:30 ` Dave Chinner
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