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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Jörg-Volker Peetz" <jvpeetz@web.de>,
	"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"Stephan Mueller" <smueller@chronox.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dave.taht@bufferbloat.net,
	"Frederic Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH,RFC] random: make fast_mix() honor its name
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:02:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130923150222.GA13764@logfs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130923024338.GF7321@thunk.org>

On Sun, 22 September 2013 22:43:38 -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 08:16:23PM -0400, Jörn Engel wrote:
> > How about we switch between the two mixing functions depending on the
> > interrupt load?  If this CPU has seen fewer than 1000 interrupts in
> > the last second, use the better one, otherwise us the cheaper one?
> 
> I guess the question here is whether it's worth it.  On a 2.8 GHz
> laptop Ivy Bridge chip the numbers are:

Then let us assume for now it is not worth it.  When I finally get
around to generating profiles for my insane system we can revisit the
issue.

> I am very strongly of the opinion that the number of systems where you
> have an embedded system with that kind of inane interrupt rate is the
> 0.00000000001% case.

That would be one machine in 10^13?  I doubt we have reached 10^13
machines running Linux in all of history, so a single example would
defeat your very strong opinion. ;)

Anyway, let me collect some real numbers before we argue any further.
And thank you for your maintainership.  It may not appear that way,
but I have _very_ little to complain about in drivers/char/random.c.

Jörn

--
One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty
are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled
with doubt and indecision.
-- Bertrand Russell

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-23 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-10 11:31 [PATCH] /dev/random: Insufficient of entropy on many architectures Stephan Mueller
2013-09-10 11:46 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-10 15:04 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 16:54   ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-10 18:25     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 19:15       ` Stephan Mueller
2013-10-10  6:50       ` Pavel Machek
2013-10-14 21:13         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 20:48   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-10 21:14     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-11  6:49       ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 11:59         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-12 12:08           ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 12:15             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-12 12:35               ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 12:47                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-12 12:57                   ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-12 21:18               ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-13 11:33             ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-09-12 14:25           ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 19:38 ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 19:44   ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 19:47   ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-10 20:35     ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 20:38   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 20:46     ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 21:10       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-10 22:08         ` John Stultz
2013-09-10 22:33           ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-11  0:31             ` John Stultz
2013-09-11  0:50               ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-11  1:14                 ` John Stultz
2013-09-12 20:46                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-12 21:07                 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-12 23:31                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-12 23:35                     ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-13  0:00                       ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-16 15:40                     ` [PATCH,RFC] random: make fast_mix() honor its name Jörn Engel
2013-09-21 21:25                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-21 21:41                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-22  3:05                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-22 21:01                             ` Jörg-Volker Peetz
2013-09-22 21:27                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-22 20:53                                 ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-22 23:36                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-23  0:16                                     ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-23  2:43                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-23 15:02                                         ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2013-09-23  7:39                                 ` Jörg-Volker Peetz
2013-09-22 20:31                           ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-22 20:14                         ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-12 21:31           ` [PATCH] /dev/random: Insufficient of entropy on many architectures Jörn Engel
2013-09-13  5:36             ` Stephan Mueller
2013-09-13 11:54               ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-09-13 19:29                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-13 15:26               ` Jörn Engel
2013-09-13 18:59               ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-15 11:12                 ` Stephan Mueller

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