From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>,
Marek Belisko <marek@goldelico.com>,
Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] wait_for_completion_timeout() considered harmful.
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 00:42:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131118234209.GO16796@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131118152746.937b2b7971d7a4bba4ef996d@linux-foundation.org>
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 03:27:46PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:06:03 +1100 NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
>
> > It would be reasonable to assume that
> >
> > wait_for_completion_timeout(&wm8350->auxadc_done, msecs_to_jiffies(5));
> >
> > would wait at least 5 msecs for the auxadc_done to complete. But it does not.
> > With a HZ of 200 or less, msecs_to_jiffies(5) has value '1', and so this
> > will only wait until the next "timer tick", which could happen immediately.
> >
> > This can lead to incorrect results - and has done so in out-of-tree patches
> > for drivers/misc/bmp085.c which uses a very similar construct to enable interrupt
> > based result collection.
> >
> > The documentation for several *_timeout* functions claim they will wait for
> > "timeout jiffies" to have elapsed where this is not the case. They will
> > actually wait for "timeout" jiffies to have started implying an elapsed time
> > between (timeout-1) and (timeout).
> >
> > This patch corrects some of this documentation, and adds a collection of
> > wait_for_completion*_msecs()
> > interfaces which wait at least the given number of milliseconds for the
> > completion (or a signal).
>
> Mutter. wait_for_x(..., 5ms) should wait for a minimum of 5ms, no matter
> what.
>
> So I'd suggest we make that happen, rather than adding some new interfaces?
Yeah, also the completion interface is just one of many that's buggered
this way.
I briefly talked to Thomas about this earlier today and we need to fix
this at a lower level -- the quick 'n dirty solution is to add 1 jiffy
down in the timer-wheel when we enqueue these things.
And yes, we very much don't want to create new interfaces with similar
but slightly different semantics, that's just asking for trouble.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-18 23:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-16 21:06 NeilBrown
2013-11-18 23:27 ` Andrew Morton
2013-11-18 23:42 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2013-11-19 0:49 ` Jonathan Corbet
2013-11-19 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-19 8:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-18 23:44 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-19 8:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-19 8:58 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-19 12:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-19 14:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
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