From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 5/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Downgrade UNLOCK+LOCK
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 18:35:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131210173524.GB25934@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131210171522.GR4208@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On 12/10, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 05:44:37PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > Well, but smp_mb__before_spinlock + LOCK is not wmb... But it is not
> > the full barrier. It should guarantee that, say,
> >
> > CONDITION = true; // 1
> >
> > // try_to_wake_up
> > smp_mb__before_spinlock();
> > spin_lock(&task->pi_lock);
> >
> > if (!(p->state & state)) // 2
> > return;
> >
> > can't race with with set_current_state() + check(CONDITION), this means
> > that 1 and 2 above must not be reordered.
> >
> > But a LOAD before before spin_lock() can leak into the critical section.
> >
> > Perhaps this should be clarified somehow, or perhaps it should actually
> > imply mb (if combined with LOCK).
>
> If we leave the implementation the same, does the following capture the
> constraints?
>
> Memory operations issued before the LOCK may be completed after
> the LOCK operation has completed. An smp_mb__before_spinlock(),
> combined with a following LOCK, orders prior loads against
> subsequent stores
prior stores against subsequent loads ;)
Otherwise - thanks!
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-10 17:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-10 1:27 [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking] Memory-barrier documentation updates + smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 1:27 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 1/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Add needed ACCESS_ONCE() calls to memory-barriers.txt Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 1:27 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 2/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Add long atomic examples " Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 1:27 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 3/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Prohibit speculative writes Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 1:28 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 4/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Document ACCESS_ONCE() Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 1:28 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 5/7] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Downgrade UNLOCK+LOCK Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 1:32 ` Josh Triplett
2013-12-10 5:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 13:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-10 17:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-10 17:43 ` Josh Triplett
2013-12-10 18:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-10 18:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 16:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-10 17:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:35 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2013-12-10 1:28 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 6/7] locking: Add an smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() for UNLOCK+LOCK barrier Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 1:34 ` Josh Triplett
2013-12-10 5:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 18:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 12:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-10 17:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:45 ` Josh Triplett
2013-12-10 20:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-10 17:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 17:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-12-10 1:28 ` [PATCH v5 tip/core/locking 7/7] rcu: Apply smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() to preserve grace periods Paul E. McKenney
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