From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com,
dipankar@in.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, josh@joshtriplett.org,
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Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/locking 4/4] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Document ACCESS_ONCE()
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:36:47 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131210173647.GU4208@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131210132448.GA31366@gmail.com>
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 02:24:48PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 10:33:34AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > >
> > > * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > + (*) The compiler is within its rights to reorder memory accesses unless
> > > > + you tell it not to. For example, consider the following interaction
> > > > + between process-level code and an interrupt handler:
> > > > +
> > > > + void process_level(void)
> > > > + {
> > > > + msg = get_message();
> > > > + flag = true;
> > > > + }
> > > > +
> > > > + void interrupt_handler(void)
> > > > + {
> > > > + if (flag)
> > > > + process_message(msg);
> > > > + }
> > > > +
> > > > + There is nothing to prevent the the compiler from transforming
> > > > + process_level() to the following, in fact, this might well be a
> > > > + win for single-threaded code:
> > > > +
> > > > + void process_level(void)
> > > > + {
> > > > + flag = true;
> > > > + msg = get_message();
> > > > + }
> > > > +
> > > > + If the interrupt occurs between these two statement, then
> > > > + interrupt_handler() might be passed a garbled msg. Use ACCESS_ONCE()
> > > > + to prevent this as follows:
> > > > +
> > > > + void process_level(void)
> > > > + {
> > > > + ACCESS_ONCE(msg) = get_message();
> > > > + ACCESS_ONCE(flag) = true;
> > > > + }
> > > > +
> > > > + void interrupt_handler(void)
> > > > + {
> > > > + if (ACCESS_ONCE(flag))
> > > > + process_message(ACCESS_ONCE(msg));
> > > > + }
> > >
> > > Technically, if the interrupt handler is the innermost context, the
> > > ACCESS_ONCE() is not needed in the interrupt_handler() code.
> > >
> > > Since for the vast majority of Linux code IRQ handlers are the most
> > > atomic contexts (very few drivers deal with NMIs) I suspect we should
> > > either remove that ACCESS_ONCE() from the example or add a comment
> > > explaining that in many cases those are superfluous?
> >
> > How about the following additional paragraph?
> >
> > Note that the ACCESS_ONCE() wrappers in interrupt_handler()
> > are needed if this interrupt handler can itself be interrupted
> > by something that also accesses 'flag' and 'msg', for example,
> > a nested interrupt or an NMI. Otherwise, ACCESS_ONCE() is not
> > needed in interrupt_handler() other than for documentation purposes.
>
> Sounds great to me!
>
> Note that nested IRQs generally don't happen on modern Linux anymore,
> we run almost all hardirqs with irqs disabled and in fact have a
> warning to detect irq handlers that enable irqs:
>
> res = action->handler(irq, action->dev_id);
> trace_irq_handler_exit(irq, action, res);
>
> if (WARN_ONCE(!irqs_disabled(),"irq %u handler %pF enabled interrupts\n",
> irq, action->handler))
> local_irq_disable();
Good point! I added the following at the end of the paragraph:
(Note also that nested interrupts do not typically occur in
modern Linux kernels, in fact, if an interrupt handler returns
with interrupts enabled, you will get a WARN_ONCE() splat.)
I guess an IRQ handler could momentarily enable interrupts as long as
it disabled them again before returning, but I don't see any reason
to encourage that practice in Documentation/memory-barriers.txt. ;-)
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-10 17:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-04 22:46 [PATCH v4 tip/core/locking 0/4] Memory-barrier documentation updates Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-04 22:46 ` [PATCH tip/core/locking 1/4] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Add needed ACCESS_ONCE() calls to memory-barriers.txt Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-04 22:46 ` [PATCH tip/core/locking 2/4] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Add long atomic examples " Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-04 22:46 ` [PATCH tip/core/locking 4/4] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Document ACCESS_ONCE() Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-05 9:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-05 9:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2013-12-05 10:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-05 18:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 13:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-10 17:36 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-12-05 9:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-05 18:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-05 22:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 15:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-10 17:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-05 20:21 ` Jonathan Corbet
2013-12-05 21:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 15:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-10 17:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 18:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-10 19:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 19:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-10 20:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-05 0:10 ` [PATCH v4 tip/core/locking 0/4] Memory-barrier documentation updates Josh Triplett
2013-12-05 10:59 ` Henrik Austad
2013-12-05 12:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-05 13:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-12-05 18:05 ` David Miller
2013-12-05 18:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-05 18:44 ` David Miller
2013-12-05 19:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-12-10 15:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-05 12:29 ` [PATCH v4 tip/core/locking 3/4] Documentation/memory-barriers.txt: Prohibit speculative writes Ingo Molnar
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