From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] sched: bias to target cpu load to reduce task moving
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 13:59:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140107125930.GW31570@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140107125518.GE2936@e103034-lin>
On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 12:55:18PM +0000, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> My understanding is that should_we_balance() decides which cpu is
> eligible for doing the load balancing for a given domain (and the
> domains above). That is, only one cpu in a group is allowed to load
> balance between the local group and other groups. That cpu would
> therefore be reponsible for pulling enough load that the groups are
> balanced even if it means temporarily overloading itself. The other cpus
> in the group will take care of load balancing the extra load within the
> local group later.
Correct.
> I may have missed something, but I don't understand the reason for the
> performance improvements that you are reporting. I see better numbers
> for a few benchmarks, but I still don't understand why the code makes
> sense after the cleanup. If we don't understand why it works, we cannot
> be sure that it doesn't harm other benchmarks. There is always a chance
> that we miss something but, IMHO, not having any idea to begin with
> increases the chances for problems later significantly. So why not get
> to the bottom of the problem of cleaning up cpu_load?
>
> Have you done more extensive benchmarking? Have you seen any regressions
> in other benchmarks?
I only remember hackbench numbers and that generally fares well with a
more aggressive balancer since it has no actual work to speak of the
migration penalty is very low and because there's a metric ton of tasks
the aggressive leveling makes for more coherent 'throughput'.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-07 13:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-03 9:05 [PATCH 0/4] sched: remove cpu_load decay Alex Shi
2013-12-03 9:05 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched: shortcut to remove load_idx Alex Shi
2013-12-03 9:05 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched: remove rq->cpu_load[load_idx] array Alex Shi
2013-12-03 9:05 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched: clean up cpu_load update Alex Shi
2013-12-03 9:05 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched: bias to target cpu load to reduce task moving Alex Shi
2013-12-04 9:06 ` Yuanhan Liu
2013-12-04 11:25 ` Alex Shi
2013-12-17 14:10 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-17 15:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-19 13:34 ` Alex Shi
2013-12-20 11:19 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-20 14:45 ` Alex Shi
2013-12-25 14:58 ` Alex Shi
2014-01-02 16:04 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-06 13:35 ` Alex Shi
2014-01-07 12:55 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 12:59 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-01-07 13:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-07 13:32 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-01-07 13:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-07 15:16 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-01-07 20:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-01-08 14:15 ` Alex Shi
2013-12-03 10:26 ` [PATCH 0/4] sched: remove cpu_load decay Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-10 1:04 ` Alex Shi
2013-12-10 1:06 ` Paul Turner
2013-12-13 19:50 ` bsegall
2013-12-14 12:53 ` Alex Shi
2013-12-13 20:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-14 13:27 ` Alex Shi
2013-12-17 14:04 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-17 15:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-17 18:12 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-12-20 14:43 ` Alex Shi
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