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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Jonathan Austin <Jonathan.Austin@arm.com>,
	"nico@linaro.org" <nico@linaro.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
	"u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"sboyd@codeaurora.org" <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	"ben.dooks@codethink.co.uk" <ben.dooks@codethink.co.uk>,
	"vgupta@synopsys.com" <vgupta@synopsys.com>,
	Fabrice Gasnier <fabrice.gasnier@st.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"maxime.coquelin@st.com" <maxime.coquelin@st.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] ARM: Add imprecise abort enable/disable macro
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:28:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140210162822.GF2794@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140210151934.GZ26684@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 03:19:34PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 02:42:28PM +0000, Dave Martin wrote:
> > Should we require CPSR.A to me masked in Booting, for all CPUs that have
> > it?
> 
> If it's not masked at boot, then there can't be an imprecise exception
> pending.

Couldn't there still be a dangling abort condition triggered by the
bootloader, which which doesn't raise the abort pin until after we
entered the kernel?

> That's unlike interrupts, where a device could trigger an interrupt at
> any moment (eg, a timer expiring.)


List as with interrupts, there's no way to drain or cancel pending aborts
that aren't asserted yet, but whose cause conditions are already
established.

It's possible that Strongly-Ordered memory is sufficient to
guarantee that any D-side abort becomes synchronous in some
implementations but I don't think the arhitecture guarantees it.

It certainly won't be guaranteed for any other memory type.


For these reasons, imprecise aborts seem a lot like interrupts:
you can mask them or handle them; but controlling when and whether
they occur involves platform-specific assumptions, at least in
theory.

Cheers
---Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-10 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-07 16:19 [RFC PATCH] ARM: Enable imprecise external aborts earlier Fabrice GASNIER
2014-02-07 16:19 ` [RFC PATCH] ARM: Add imprecise abort enable/disable macro Fabrice GASNIER
2014-02-07 17:09   ` Will Deacon
2014-02-10  8:50     ` Fabrice Gasnier
2014-02-10  9:00       ` Ben Dooks
2014-02-10 13:32         ` Fabrice Gasnier
2014-02-10 11:17       ` Will Deacon
2014-02-10 13:54         ` Fabrice Gasnier
2014-02-10 13:56         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-10 14:12           ` Will Deacon
2014-02-10 14:42           ` Dave Martin
2014-02-10 15:19             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-10 16:28               ` Dave Martin [this message]
2014-02-10 16:37                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-10 17:28                   ` Dave Martin
2014-02-10 13:58     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-10 14:16   ` Dave Martin
2014-02-10 14:44     ` Fabrice Gasnier
2014-02-10 15:12       ` Dave Martin
2014-02-10 15:24         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-02-10 16:36           ` Fabrice Gasnier
2014-02-10 14:54     ` Ben Dooks
2014-02-10 15:21       ` Dave Martin
2014-02-10 16:38         ` Ben Dooks
2014-02-11 15:38           ` Dave Martin

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