* Re: tcp option added by driver
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@ 2014-04-22 11:21 ` Christoph Paasch
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From: Christoph Paasch @ 2014-04-22 11:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rishi Madhan; +Cc: Madhan, linux-kernel
On 22/04/14 - 10:00:43, Rishi Madhan wrote:
> >You basically have to reimplement a full TCP-stack at the driver as each
> >TCP-subflow has to behave as regular TCP (3-way handshake, retransmissions,...)
> Can it be done like the usb modem driver ? Like adding the NCM or QMI or RNDIS header on the data field .
> Rather than changing the entire tcp header in the driver level .
I don't know exactly what the usb modem driver does, but for MPTCP it is
much more complex than just adding some bits to a segment.
> In case of mptcp only the option field has to be changed .
And the TCP/IP-header as you want to send your traffic via different paths.
> And instead of sending the mptcp flags (such as mp_cap ,mp_join)
> inside option . Can it be done on the data ?
Then, this would be a whole new protocol, no more MPTCP. That's a different
story, and the idea of putting everything inside the data instead of the
TCP-option space has been widely discussed at the IETF, but got rejected
because of deadlock-issues with such an approach.
> The main reason why i am tryin to implement in this way is the effect of the MIDDLEBOX .
What do you mean by the effect of the middlebox?
Btw., I'm not sure if lkml is the right place to discuss this. Maybe
move the discussion to mptcp-dev.
Cheers,
Christoph
> and also that server need not
> rebuild kernel (most of them dont want to also) and can dynamically load/unload driver on need basis .
>
> Regards,
> Madhan
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Christoph Paasch <christoph.paasch@uclouvain.be<mailto:christoph.paasch@uclouvain.be>> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On 22/04/14 - 05:27:55, Madhan wrote:
> > hi ,
> > Is it possible to update the option field of the tcp header dynamically by the driver rather than the change in tcp/ip stack .
> > i.e Can i add a driver to implement mptcp rather than building entire kernel again ?
>
> in principle it seems possible to do this at a driver-level. Alcatel-Lucent
> implemented something similar using netfilter-hooks:
> https://open-innovation.alcatel-lucent.com/projects/mptcp-proxy
>
> Regular TCP was running on top, and the netfilter hooks allowed to
> rewrite the TCP/IP header.
>
>
> However, I think that doing it that way will be huge implementation effort
> (considering that there exists already an open-source implementation at
> multipath-tcp.org<http://multipath-tcp.org>) and it might be hard to achieve good performance and make it
> scale properly.
>
> You basically have to reimplement a full TCP-stack at the driver as each
> TCP-subflow has to behave as regular TCP (3-way handshake, retransmissions,...)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Christoph
>
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