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From: Liviu Dudau <Liviu.Dudau@arm.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	Tanmay Inamdar <tinamdar@apm.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"grant.likely@linaro.org" <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
	Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"patches@apm.com" <patches@apm.com>,
	"jcm@redhat.com" <jcm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/4] arm64: dts: APM X-Gene PCIe device tree nodes
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 13:49:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140422124937.GE865@e106497-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140417012434.GA8734@obsidianresearch.com>

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 02:24:34AM +0100, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 01:20:42AM +0100, Liviu Dudau wrote:
> 
> > > No spec says you can put config space into the ranges at all, nobody
> > > should be doing that today, obviously some cases were missed during
> > > review..
> > 
> > ePAPR documents allows that when ss == 00.
> 
> Which do you mean? The 'PCI Bus Binding' spec has fairly specific
> language on how ranges should be used and interpreted, and it
> precludes doing anything meaningful with config space (like requiring
> b,d,f and r to be zeroed when doing compares against ranges, requiring
> the ranges to represent the bridge windows, etc).
> 
> There is certainly room to invent something (like ECAM mapping) but
> nothing is specified in that document.

On more carefull reading of the Power_ePAPR_APPROVED_v1.0.pdf document
that I have I agree, there is no meaningful way of describing one's
config ranges.

> 
> The ePAPR document I have doesn't talk about PCI..
> 
> If you've found a document that defines how it works then that changes
> things.. ;)
> 
> > > The comment about ECAM was intended as a general guidance on what
> > > config space in ranges could/should be used for.
> > > 
> > > Right now config space shouldn't propagate out side any driver, so you
> > > can probably just filter it in your generic code, and make it very hard
> > > and obviously wrong for a driver to parse ranges for config space, so
> > > we don't get more usages.
> > 
> > OK, this goes slightly against your email from 26th March:
> > 
> > "When we talked about this earlier on the DT bindings list the
> > consensus seemed to be that configuration MMIO ranges should only be
> > used if the underlying memory was exactly ECAM, and was not to be used
> > for random configuration related register blocks.
> > 
> > The rational being that generic code, upon seeing that ranges entry,
> > could just go ahead and assume ECAM mapping."
> > 
> > What I'm saying is that the only code that will see this ranges entry will
> > be the parsing code as if we try to create a resource out of the range
> > and add it to the host bridge structure (not driver) we will confuse the
> > rest of the pci_host_bridge API. So we cannot do any ECAM accesses (yet?).
> 
> Sorry if this seems unclear, what you quoted was from a specification
> standpoint - someday defining config space ranges to be the ECAM
> window makes the most sense. This is from the direction of precluding
> drivers from using it for random purposes.
> 
> From a Linux standpoint, there is simply no infrastructure for generic
> config access outside the driver, so config space must remain
> contained in the driver, and shouldn't leak into the host bridge or
> other core structures.
> 
> I think the shared code you are working on should simply ignore config
> ss ranges entirely, they have no defined meaning..

Agree. Less things to code for is always better!

Best regards,
Liviu

> 
> Regards,
> Jason
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-22 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-19 23:12 [PATCH v5 0/4] APM X-Gene PCIe controller Tanmay Inamdar
2014-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] pci: APM X-Gene PCIe controller driver Tanmay Inamdar
2014-03-21 10:15   ` Sunil Kovvuri
2014-03-21 18:23     ` Tanmay Inamdar
2014-03-25 14:05       ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-25 19:56         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-03-25  8:52   ` Phil.Edworthy
2014-03-25 21:52     ` Tanmay Inamdar
2014-03-25 14:02   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-25 22:12     ` Tanmay Inamdar
2014-03-26 10:13       ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] arm64: dts: APM X-Gene PCIe device tree nodes Tanmay Inamdar
2014-03-26 14:28   ` Rob Herring
2014-03-26 15:35     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-26 16:35     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-16 17:05     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-16 21:21       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-17  0:20         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-17  1:24           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-22 12:49             ` Liviu Dudau [this message]
2014-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] dt-bindings: pci: xgene pcie device tree bindings Tanmay Inamdar
2014-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] MAINTAINERS: entry for APM X-Gene PCIe host driver Tanmay Inamdar

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