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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Yan, Zheng" <zheng.z.yan@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, eranian@google.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 6/7] perf, x86: large PEBS interrupt threshold
Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 17:35:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140528153548.GY11096@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140528145831.GH29957@tassilo.jf.intel.com>

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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 07:58:31AM -0700, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > In particular, the 0x90 offset (IA32_PERF_GLOBAL_STATUS). Intel once
> > confirmed to me that that is a direct copy of the similarly named MSR at
> > the time of the PEBS assist.
> 
> That is correct.
> 
> > 
> > This is a problem, since if multiple counters overflow multiple bits
> > will be set and its (afaict) ambiguous which event is for which counter.
> 
> When a PEBS counter overflows it clears its respective GLOBAL_STATUS bit
> automatically.

That's an ambiguous statement; did you mean to say a PEBS enabled
counter will not raise its bit in GLOBAL_STATUS on counter overflow?

Because if it does raise it, but then clears it again, its raised for a
short while and might be observed.

Anyway, you've still not entirely explained the full life cycle of those
bits in excruciating detail, please do so now.

Also, try and get it included in the SDM.

> > So until you can give an official Intel answer on how all this demuxing
> > is supposed to work and be correct this patch set isn't moving anywhere.
> 
> FWIW a patch signed off by intel.com is an official Intel statement.

Is that the reason they have such vague and non-committal Changelogs? Be
detailed and explicit.

On that same note; can someone shoot whoever writes the new SDM bits?
They're nearly impossible to comprehend, its like a patent lawyer was
involved with the end result of having a text explicitly engineered to
not be understood :-(

> > > To supply a TID it
> > > requires flushing on context switch. It can however supply the IP
> > 
> > On SNB+, previous to SNB it would need to have precise==1. I've seen no
> > such logic in. Instead you seem to artificially limit it to SNB+, for no
> > apparent reason to me.
> 
> Only tested on Sandy Bridge+

That's just ... /me lacking words.. the worst reason possible for
arbitrary limits, esp. since you guys actually have the hardware to test
older chips.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-28 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-28  6:18 [RFC PATCH 0/7] " Yan, Zheng
2014-05-28  6:18 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] perf, core: Add all PMUs to pmu_idr Yan, Zheng
2014-05-28  6:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28  6:18 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] perf, core: introduce pmu context switch callback Yan, Zheng
2014-05-28  6:18 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] perf, x86: use context switch callback to flush LBR stack Yan, Zheng
2014-05-28  6:18 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] tools, perf: Allow the user to disable time stamps Yan, Zheng
2014-05-28  6:18 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] perf, x86: use the PEBS auto reload mechanism when possible Yan, Zheng
2014-05-28  7:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28 14:46     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-28 15:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28  6:18 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] perf, x86: large PEBS interrupt threshold Yan, Zheng
2014-05-28  8:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28 12:54     ` Stephane Eranian
2014-05-28 15:02       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28 14:58     ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-28 15:24       ` Stephane Eranian
2014-05-28 16:51         ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-28 17:05           ` Stephane Eranian
2014-05-28 17:10             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28 17:12             ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-28 17:19               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28 17:45                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-28 17:49                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28 17:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28 15:35       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-05-28 16:08         ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-28 17:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28 17:25             ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-28 17:40               ` Stephane Eranian
2014-05-28 17:47                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-28 19:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-28  6:18 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] perf, x86: drain PEBS buffer during context switch Yan, Zheng
2014-05-28  8:12   ` Peter Zijlstra

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