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From: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: bsegall@google.com, mingo@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com,
	arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com, len.brown@intel.com,
	alan.cox@intel.com, mark.gross@intel.com, pjt@google.com,
	fengguang.wu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 10:01:28 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140711020127.GE12984@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140711005201.GD12984@intel.com>

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 08:52:01AM +0800, Yuyang Du wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:47:09AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 07:22:07AM +0800, Yuyang Du wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:08:59PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Since clock_task is the regular clock minus some local amount, the
> > > > difference between two regular clock reads is always a strict upper
> > > > bound on clock_task differences.
> > > > 
> > > This is inspiring. Regarding the clock source in load avg tracking,
> > > should we simply use rq_clock_task instead of cfs_rq_clock_task.
> > 
> > Oh *groan* I forgot about that thing. But no, it obviously doesn't
> > matter for running time, because if you're throttled you're nor running
> > and therefore it all doesn't matter, but it can make a huge difference
> > for blocked time accounting I suppose.
> > 
> > > For the bandwidth control case, just update/increase the last_update_time when
> > > unthrottled by this throttled time, so the time would look like freezed. Am I
> > > understanding right?
> > 
> > Yes, it stops the clock when throttled.
> > 
> > > Not sure how much bandwidth control is used, but even not used, every time
> > > we read cfs_rq_clock_task, will burn useless cycles here.
> > 
> > Yep, nothing much you can do about that.
> > 
> > In any case, it is still the case that a normal clock difference is an
> > upper bound.
> 
> I meant, not for this migrating case. But completely don't use cfs_rq_clock_task
> in the entire load avg tracking (and specially compensate the throttle case). No?
> 
Oh, there seems no way to change every task's last_update_time when unthrottled.

Still, need cfs_rq_clock_task.

Thanks,
Yuyang

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-11 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-02  2:30 [PATCH 1/2] sched: Remove update_rq_runnable_avg Yuyang Du
2014-07-02  2:30 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking Yuyang Du
2014-07-07 10:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-07 10:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-07 20:03     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-07 22:25     ` bsegall
2014-07-08  0:08       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-08 17:04         ` bsegall
2014-07-09  1:07           ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-09 17:08             ` bsegall
2014-07-09 18:39               ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-09 18:45             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-09 19:07               ` bsegall
2014-07-10 10:08                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-10 17:01                   ` bsegall
2014-07-10 19:53                     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-10 23:22                   ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-11  8:47                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-11  0:52                       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-11  2:01                         ` Yuyang Du [this message]
2014-07-09 23:30               ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-10 17:06                 ` bsegall
2014-07-10 20:08                   ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-08 12:50       ` Peter Zijlstra

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