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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: Oded Gabbay <oded.gabbay@amd.com>,
	Jerome Glisse <j.glisse@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Lewycky <Andrew.Lewycky@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/83] drm/radeon: Add calls to initialize and finalize kfd from radeon
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 15:31:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140717133146.GM15237@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53C7C555.8040402@amd.com>

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 02:45:09PM +0200, Christian König wrote:
> Am 17.07.2014 14:30, schrieb Oded Gabbay:
> >On 17/07/14 15:29, Christian König wrote:
> >>Am 17.07.2014 13:57, schrieb Oded Gabbay:
> >>>On 11/07/14 19:36, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> >>>>On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:50:08AM +0300, Oded Gabbay wrote:
> >>>>>The KFD driver should be loaded when the radeon driver is loaded and
> >>>>>should be finalized when the radeon driver is removed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>This patch adds a function call to initialize kfd from radeon_init
> >>>>>and a function call to finalize kfd from radeon_exit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>If the KFD driver is not present in the system, the initialize call
> >>>>>fails and the radeon driver continues normally.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>This patch also adds calls to probe, initialize and finalize a kfd
> >>>>>device
> >>>>>per radeon device using the kgd-->kfd interface.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Signed-off-by: Oded Gabbay <oded.gabbay@amd.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>It might be nice to allow to build radeon without HSA so i think an
> >>>>CONFIG_HSA should be added and have other thing depends on it.
> >>>>Otherwise this one is.
> >>>>
> >>>>Reviewed-by: Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
> >>>>
> >>>We do allow it :)
> >>>There is no problem building radeon without the kfd. In that case,
> >>>when radeon
> >>>finds out that kfd is not available, it simply moves on with its
> >>>initialization procedure.
> >>
> >>At least off hand I don't see how this should work. Radeon directly
> >>calls
> >>radeon_kfd_(probe|init|fini) and so has a direct dependency on it.
> >>
> >>Christian.
> >But radeon_kfd.c is now a permanent part of the radeon driver. I talked
> >with Alex about it and we both agreed on that. So radeon_kfd_* functions
> >are *always* there when you build radeon.
> 
> Ah, I see. So radeon_kfd_init then tries to load the other module through
> symbol_request(). Long story short that's a bad idea for a couple of
> reasons.
> 
> First of all it only works when you build everything as module and second by
> doing so the radeon<->kfd interface must be handled as internal stable
> interface.
> 
> Only a very few drivers/subsystem do use symbol_request() and to see how to
> use it correctly please take a look at (for example)
> sound/pci/hda/hda_codec.c.

We do this in i915 to coordinate a bunch of things with the snd_hda
driver. And it's a major pain. Imo the proper way to do this is for one
driver to expose a platform driver with a bunch of specific interfaces and
for the other driver to register as a platform driver against that device.

Then all the usual linux hotplug infrastructure will make sure that this
all works and there's a clear runtime depency. For i915 that's what I've
requested the audio guys to look into, and also what I'll require for
other such sub-driver stuff (e.g. we have a non-intel video codec on vlv
gfx). Well for audio it will be a bit fancier since we also want some
standardized stuff to allow userspace to see the association between the
gfx output and the audio side. Atm you can only guess if you have more
than one screen connected.

This approach gives you full flexibility and you can e.g. blacklist the
subdriver for debugging, without a kernel recompile.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
+41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-07-17 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-10 21:50 [PATCH 02/83] drm/radeon: reduce number of free VMIDs and pipes in KV Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 03/83] drm/radeon: Report doorbell configuration to kfd Oded Gabbay
2014-07-11 16:16   ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 04/83] drm/radeon: Add radeon <--> kfd interface Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 22:38   ` Joe Perches
2014-07-11 16:24     ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-17 11:55       ` Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 05/83] drm/radeon: Add kfd-->kgd interface to get virtual ram size Oded Gabbay
2014-07-11 16:27   ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 06/83] drm/radeon: Add kfd-->kgd interfaces of memory allocation/mapping Oded Gabbay
2014-07-11 16:32   ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 07/83] drm/radeon: Add kfd-->kgd interface of locking srbm_gfx_cntl register Oded Gabbay
2014-07-11 16:34   ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-11 17:48     ` Bridgman, John
2014-07-12  0:36       ` Bridgman, John
2014-07-12  0:37       ` Bridgman, John
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 08/83] drm/radeon: Add calls to initialize and finalize kfd from radeon Oded Gabbay
2014-07-11 16:36   ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-17 11:57     ` Oded Gabbay
2014-07-17 12:29       ` Christian König
2014-07-17 12:30         ` Oded Gabbay
     [not found]           ` <53C7C555.8040402@amd.com>
2014-07-17 13:31             ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 09/83] hsa/radeon: Add code base of hsa driver for AMD's GPUs Oded Gabbay
2014-07-11 17:04   ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-11 17:28     ` Joe Perches
2014-07-17 11:51       ` Oded Gabbay
2014-07-11 17:40     ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-11 18:02     ` Bridgman, John
2014-07-11 18:10       ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-11 18:46         ` Bridgman, John
2014-07-11 18:51           ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-11 18:56             ` Bridgman, John
2014-07-11 19:22               ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-11 19:38                 ` Joe Perches
2014-07-17 11:51                 ` Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 10/83] hsa/radeon: Add initialization and unmapping of doorbell aperture Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 11/83] hsa/radeon: Add scheduler code Oded Gabbay
2014-07-11 18:25   ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-17 11:57     ` Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 12/83] hsa/radeon: Add kfd mmap handler Oded Gabbay
2014-07-11 18:47   ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 13/83] hsa/radeon: Add 2 new IOCTL to kfd, CREATE_QUEUE and DESTROY_QUEUE Oded Gabbay
2014-07-11 19:19   ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-11 21:01   ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-11 21:42   ` Dave Airlie
2014-07-14  7:33     ` Gabbay, Oded
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 14/83] hsa/radeon: Update MAINTAINERS and CREDITS files Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 15/83] hsa/radeon: Add interrupt handling module Oded Gabbay
2014-07-11 19:57   ` Jerome Glisse
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 16/83] hsa/radeon: Add the isr function of the KFD scehduler Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 17/83] hsa/radeon: Handle deactivation of queues using interrupts Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 18/83] hsa/radeon: Enable interrupts in KFD scheduler Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 19/83] hsa/radeon: Enable/Disable KFD interrupt module Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 20/83] hsa/radeon: Add interrupt callback function to kgd2kfd interface Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 21/83] hsa/radeon: Add kgd-->kfd interfaces for suspend and resume Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 22/83] drm/radeon: Add calls to suspend and resume of kfd driver Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 23/83] drm/radeon/cik: Don't touch int of pipes 1-7 Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 24/83] drm/radeon/cik: Call kfd isr function Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 25/83] hsa/radeon: fix the OEMID assignment in kfd_topology Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 26/83] hsa/radeon: Make binding of process to device permanent Oded Gabbay
2014-07-10 21:50 ` [PATCH 27/83] hsa/radeon: Implement hsaKmtSetMemoryPolicy Oded Gabbay
2014-07-11 16:05 ` [PATCH 02/83] drm/radeon: reduce number of free VMIDs and pipes in KV Jerome Glisse
2014-07-11 16:18   ` Christian König
2014-07-11 16:22     ` Alex Deucher
2014-07-11 17:07       ` Bridgman, John
     [not found]         ` <CAL4m05UPDBrSOaHdyVSws9c3i=NPmSfVYQ=4emehyctN1+9r0g@mail.gmail.com>
2014-07-11 22:54           ` Bridgman, John
2014-07-12  9:00       ` Christian König
2014-07-14  7:31         ` Michel Dänzer
2014-07-14  7:38 ` Michel Dänzer
2014-07-14  7:58   ` Christian König
2014-07-17 11:47     ` Oded Gabbay

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