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From: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@vger.kernel.org,
	Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Zhang Yanfei <zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/14] mm, compaction: defer each zone individually instead of preferred zone
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:45:06 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140804064505.GA22835@js1304-P5Q-DELUXE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53DB54FB.6050100@suse.cz>

On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 10:51:07AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 07/30/2014 06:22 PM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >On 07/29/2014 11:12 AM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >>On 07/29/2014 08:38 AM, Joonsoo Kim wrote:
> >>>
> >>>I still don't understand why defer_compaction() is needed here.
> >>>defer_compaction() is intended for not struggling doing compaction on
> >>>the zone where we already have tried compaction and found that it
> >>>isn't suitable for compaction. Allocation failure doesn't tell us
> >>>that we have tried compaction for all the zone range so we shouldn't
> >>>make a decision here to defer compaction on this zone carelessly.
> >>
> >>OK I can remove that, it should make the code nicer anyway.
> >
> >Weird, that removal of this defer_compaction() call seems ho have
> >quadrupled compact_stall and compact_fail counts. The scanner pages
> >counters however increased by only 10% so that could indicate the
> >problem is occuring only in a small zone such as DMA. Could be another
> >case of mismatch between watermark checking in compaction and
> >allocation? Perhaps the lack of proper classzone_idx in the compaction
> >check? Sigh.
> 
> Yep so it was the DMA zone returning COMPACT_PARTIAL from the
> compaction_suitable() check done at the very beginning of
> compact_zone(). The meaning of that is "the allocation should
> succeed without compaction", so compaction is not done at all. Yet
> the COMPACT_PARTIAL return value means it counts as a stall, even
> with the patch that doesn't count COMPACT_SKIPPED as stalls.
> The watermark check in try_to_compact_pages() also apparently
> succeeds as the compaction is not being deferred. With deferral
> removed from __alloc_pages_direct_compact(), this zone will be
> attempted uselessly each time, and deferred_compaction is
> practically never reported back.
> 
> So for now I think it would be best to leave the defer_compaction()
> call in __alloc_pages_direct_compact() as it is. Fixing this in a
> better way would require more investigation (I guess the lack of
> classzone_idx in compaction makes the difference for the watermark
> checks here) and another patch(es), which I'll attempt, but I don't
> want to further grow this series with new patches right now.

Okay. compaction has many inconsistent watermark check so we cannot
easily understand how/why it works. Cleaning it up looks really good
topic to investigate. :)

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-04  6:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-28 13:11 [PATCH v5 00/14] compaction: balancing overhead and success rates Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] mm, THP: don't hold mmap_sem in khugepaged when allocating THP Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 23:39   ` David Rientjes
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] mm, compaction: defer each zone individually instead of preferred zone Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 23:59   ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29  9:02     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29  6:38   ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-07-29  9:12     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-30 16:22       ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-08-01  8:51         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-08-04  6:45           ` Joonsoo Kim [this message]
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] mm, compaction: do not count compact_stall if all zones skipped compaction Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29  0:04   ` David Rientjes
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] mm, compaction: do not recheck suitable_migration_target under lock Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] mm, compaction: move pageblock checks up from isolate_migratepages_range() Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29  0:29   ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29  9:27     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29 23:02       ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29 23:21         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-07-29 23:51           ` David Rientjes
2014-07-30  9:27             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-30  9:39         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] mm, compaction: reduce zone checking frequency in the migration scanner Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29  0:44   ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29  9:31     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] mm, compaction: khugepaged should not give up due to need_resched() Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29  0:59   ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29  9:45     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29 22:57       ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29  6:53   ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-07-29  7:31     ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29  8:27       ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-07-29  9:16         ` David Rientjes
2014-07-29  9:49       ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29 22:53         ` David Rientjes
2014-07-30  9:08           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] mm, compaction: periodically drop lock and restore IRQs in scanners Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29  1:03   ` David Rientjes
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] mm, compaction: skip rechecks when lock was already held Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] mm, compaction: remember position within pageblock in free pages scanner Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] mm, compaction: skip buddy pages by their order in the migrate scanner Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29  1:05   ` David Rientjes
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] mm: rename allocflags_to_migratetype for clarity Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] mm, compaction: pass gfp mask to compact_control Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-28 13:11 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] mm, compaction: try to capture the just-created high-order freepage Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-29  7:34   ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-07-29 15:34     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-30  8:39       ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-07-30  9:56         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-07-30 14:19           ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-07-30 15:05             ` Vlastimil Babka

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