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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Christopher Barry <christopher.r.barry@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: OT: Open letter to the Linux World
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:27:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140813082756.GB2923@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yw1xr40l2whi.fsf@unicorn.mansr.com>

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On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:07:05PM +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote:
> Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> writes:
> 
> > Nice rant, I sympathize with you (just complaining about this on G+).
> 
> Made my day.
> 
> > I'm just waiting for Linus to get pissed enough to write his own init
> > routine. Maybe he'll call it "Boot Init Through Computer Hardware".
> 
> The trouble is that most of the heavy-weight kernel developers don't
> seem to care at all about what goes on in userspace.

Well, I know for a fact that quite a number do; but so far most people
who care have been able to steer clear of this trainwreck so we did.

I'm about to switch all my machines to Gentoo (from Debian) because that
will indeed allow you to build a distro without much of this nonsense
in -- because as has been eloquently said; you simply don't need this
fucking shite to run a 'normal' machine.

And the thing is; we're all very busy so we tend to take the 'easy' way
out for things like this; but wholesale switching all my machines is
indeed painful, and I'm not liking.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-13  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-12 19:38 Christopher Barry
2014-08-12 20:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-08-12 20:44   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-08-12 22:07   ` Måns Rullgård
2014-08-13  8:27     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-08-13  9:00       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-08-18 18:15         ` Alexander Holler
2014-09-04  7:54           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-04 10:16             ` Alexander Holler
2014-09-04 14:36               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-09-04 17:29                 ` Alexander Holler
2014-09-04 17:58                   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-09-04 18:11                     ` Alexander Holler
2014-09-04 18:27           ` Rogelio Serrano
2014-09-04 18:33             ` Alexander Holler
2014-09-04 19:18               ` Rob Landley
2014-09-05  6:31                 ` Alexander Holler
2014-09-06 20:01                   ` Alexander Holler
2014-09-06 23:44                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2014-09-07  1:42                       ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-13  9:24       ` Måns Rullgård
2014-08-13  9:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13  9:37           ` Måns Rullgård
2014-08-13  9:37       ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-08-13  9:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13  9:59           ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-08-13  9:54         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-13  9:57         ` Måns Rullgård
2014-08-13 10:21           ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-08-13 20:19       ` William Pitcock
2014-08-14  1:08 ` Robert Hancock
2014-08-15 18:41 ` Jaswinder Singh
2015-04-08 13:12 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-09  0:37   ` Rob Landley
2015-04-09 18:18     ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-04-10 12:40     ` Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
2015-04-10 21:20     ` Aaro Koskinen
2015-04-11  1:08       ` Rob Landley
     [not found] <E1XHxA6-0000ar-2a@feisty.vs19.net>
2014-08-15  8:59 ` Vlad Glagolev
2014-08-15 14:04   ` Gene Heskett
2014-08-16 21:10   ` Rob Landley

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