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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Nadav Amit <namit@cs.technion.ac.il>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH 1/3] x86: Adding structs to reflect cpuid fields
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:58:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140919075814.GA30491@nazgul.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <541ADFEB.6030801@redhat.com>

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 03:36:43PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> We're talking about the case where the field is not reserved anymore and
> we _know_ that the vendor has just decided to grow the bitfield that
> precedes it.

We're talking about the case where you assumed that a reserved bit is 0
which is an unsafe assumption, the least.

> As soon as we know that the field is not reserved anymore, we
> obviously rely on reserved bits being zero in older processors, and in
> future processors from other vendors.

Again, this is an unsafe assumption.

> The trivial example is feature bits like XSAVE. We query them all the
> time without checking the family when they were first introduced,
> don't we?

The feature bits would obviously be 0 if features are not supported.

However, even there

"16 - Reserved - Do not count on the value."

I'm quoting Intel's CPUID doc 241618-037 from 2011 (there might be a
newer one though), the CPUID(1).ECX description.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.
--

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-19  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1410870160-28845-1-git-send-email-namit@cs.technion.ac.il>
2014-09-16 13:22 ` [PATCH 0/3] x86: structs for cpuid info in x86 Ingo Molnar
2014-09-16 20:19   ` Nadav Amit
2014-09-17 12:37     ` Ingo Molnar
2014-09-17 12:45       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-17 12:54         ` [RESEND PATCH " Nadav Amit
2014-09-17 12:54           ` [RESEND PATCH 1/3] x86: Adding structs to reflect cpuid fields Nadav Amit
2014-09-17 13:21             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-17 13:53               ` Nadav Amit
2014-09-17 14:06                 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-17 15:04                   ` Radim Krčmář
2014-09-17 15:22                     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-18  0:29                       ` Radim Krčmář
2014-09-18  7:19                         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-18 10:00                           ` Radim Krčmář
2014-09-18 13:06                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-18 13:26                     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-18 13:36                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-19  7:58                         ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2014-09-19  8:59                           ` Nadav Amit
2014-09-19 10:32                             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-19 13:40                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-09-19 14:44                             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-17 14:10             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-17 12:54           ` [RESEND PATCH 2/3] x86: Use new cpuid structs in cpuid functions Nadav Amit
2014-09-17 12:54           ` [RESEND PATCH 3/3] KVM: x86: Using cpuid structs in KVM Nadav Amit
2014-09-17 14:12       ` [PATCH 0/3] x86: structs for cpuid info in x86 Peter Zijlstra

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