From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
kan.liang@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 02/22] perf: Add AUX area to ring buffer for raw data streams
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:20:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141006162056.GD6758@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k34do9a4.fsf@ashishki-desk.ger.corp.intel.com>
On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 12:08:19PM +0300, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 03:55:11PM +0300, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
> >
> >> Fair enough. Then I'd like to disable the ACTIVE ones before freeing AUX
> >> stuff and then re-enabling them since perf_event_{en,dis}able() already
> >> provide the convenient cross-cpu calls, which would also avoid
> >> concurrency between pmu::{add,del} callbacks and this unmap path. Makes
> >> sense?
> >
> > But why? The buffer stuff is RCU freed, so if the hardware observes
> > pages and does get_page_unless_zero() on them its good. The memory will
> > not be freed from underneath the hardware writer because of the
> > get_page().
> >
> > Then when the buffer is full and we 'swap', we'll find there is no next
> > buffer. At that point we can not provide a new buffer, effectively
> > stopping the hardware writes and release the old buffer, freeing the
> > memory.
>
> There are several problems with this. Firstly, aux buffers can be quite
> large, which means that we have to do get_page() on thousands of pages
> on every pmu::add, which is a hot path and free_page() again in
> pmu::del.
>
> Secondly, all the sg bookkeeping that the driver keeps in aux_priv needs
> to be refcounted. Right now, in the mmap_close path we just free
> everything. But if we want to free the aux_pages in pmu::del, we need to
> keep a list of these pages still around after mmap_close() and same goes
> for the actual sg tables. I can see a way of doing that on the ring
> buffer side (as opposed to the driver side), but are you quite sure we
> should go down this road?
No, and I think I realized this after sending that email, but at the
time I figured there was another way to do it. Of course, now that
several weeks have passed I cannot for the life of me remember what it
was.
Lemme go over these patches again to refresh my mind and maybe I'll
remember.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-06 16:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-20 12:35 [PATCH v4 00/22] perf: Add infrastructure and support for Intel PT Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:35 ` [PATCH v4 01/22] perf: Add data_{offset,size} to user_page Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:35 ` [PATCH v4 02/22] perf: Add AUX area to ring buffer for raw data streams Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 7:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 11:16 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 11:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 12:55 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-06 9:08 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-10-06 16:20 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-10-06 21:52 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-10-07 15:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 03/22] perf: Support high-order allocations for AUX space Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 04/22] perf: Add a capability for AUX_NO_SG pmus to do software double buffering Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 7:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 11:07 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 11:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 05/22] perf: Add a pmu capability for "exclusive" events Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 06/22] perf: Redirect output from inherited events to parents Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 15:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09 9:54 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 07/22] perf: Add api for pmus to write to AUX space Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 16:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 08/22] perf: Add AUX record Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 8:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 09/22] perf: Support overwrite mode for AUX area Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 8:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09 9:40 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 10:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09 11:53 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09 13:00 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 10/22] perf: Add wakeup watermark control to " Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 11/22] perf: add ITRACE_START record to indicate that tracing has started Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 9:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09 9:33 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 12/22] x86: Add Intel Processor Trace (INTEL_PT) cpu feature detection Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 13/22] x86: perf: Intel PT and LBR/BTS are mutually exclusive Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 14/22] x86: perf: intel_pt: Intel PT PMU driver Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 15/22] x86: perf: intel_bts: Add BTS " Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 16/22] perf: Add rb_{alloc,free}_kernel api Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 9:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 17/22] perf: Add a helper to copy AUX data in the kernel Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 18/22] perf: Add a helper for looking up pmus by type Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 19/22] perf: Add infrastructure for using AUX data in perf samples Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 9:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 20/22] perf: Allocate ring buffers for inherited per-task kernel events Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 9:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 21/22] perf: Allow AUX sampling for multiple events Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 22/22] perf: Allow sampling of inherited events Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-25 6:21 ` [PATCH v4 00/22] perf: Add infrastructure and support for Intel PT Adrian Hunter
2014-09-01 16:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 16:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 17:17 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <CANLsYky0vuwo7MwKbiGXypkLkrX7k6BOEf2uej3-Z3-HZHKd7w@mail.gmail.com>
2014-09-04 8:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-05 13:34 ` Mathieu Poirier
2014-09-08 11:55 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 13:08 ` Michael Williams
2014-09-08 13:29 ` Al Grant
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