From: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
kan.liang@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/22] perf: Support overwrite mode for AUX area
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 14:53:42 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sik1t3g9.fsf@ashishki-desk.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140909105537.GJ6758@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:
> On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 12:40:39PM +0300, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
>> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:
>>
>> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 03:36:06PM +0300, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
>> >
>> >> diff --git a/kernel/events/ring_buffer.c b/kernel/events/ring_buffer.c
>> >> index 925f369947..5006caba63 100644
>> >> --- a/kernel/events/ring_buffer.c
>> >> +++ b/kernel/events/ring_buffer.c
>> >
>> >> @@ -294,9 +295,22 @@ void perf_aux_output_end(struct perf_output_handle *handle, unsigned long size,
>> >> bool truncated)
>> >> {
>> >> struct ring_buffer *rb = handle->rb;
>> >> + unsigned long aux_head;
>> >>
>> >> + aux_head = local_read(&rb->aux_head);
>> >> +
>> >> + if (rb->aux_overwrite) {
>> >> + local_set(&rb->aux_head, size);
>> >> +
>> >> + /*
>> >> + * Send a RECORD_AUX with size==0 to communicate aux_head
>> >> + * of this snapshot to userspace
>> >> + */
>> >> + perf_event_aux_event(handle->event, size, 0, truncated);
>> >
>> > Humm.. why not write a 'normal' AUX record?
>>
>> In this mode, the hardware is running in a circular buffer mode,
>> overwriting old data, so we don't actually know the size of the
>> snapshot, we have userspace figure it out later on (based on timestamps,
>> for example). I didn't want to configure PMI for this mode to avoid
>> overhead, but with PMI we can try to keep track of the overwrites and
>> try to infer the actual snapshot size in the kernel. For Intel PT. As
>> far as I can tell, ARM's scatter-gather trace-to-memory storing block
>> does not generate interrupts at all.
>
> Well, wouldn't the 'size' be basically the entire buffer. All you have
> to then provide is the head pointer.
Yes, that's what the code above is doing. We can replace size==0 with
size==$buffer_size to mean the same thing.
> Ideally you would also provide a
> tail pointer so you know when to stop, but I suppose you can infer that
> from the data stream itself?
The tail pointer is the problem I mentioned above, because it's either
- where we stopped the previous time
- head+1, if old data is overwritten
and in order to tell the difference, we need an interrupt.
We can infer where the new data starts from the timestamps in the trace
stream, so the decoder can take care of it (and that's how it's done at
the moment).
> If you can provide the tail you can indeed
> compute the size etc.. at which point you don't have to rely on parsing
> the stream etc.
Ideally, there wouldn't be too many adjacent snapshots so it won't even
be a problem. But yes, if we want to reliably know the tail/size, we
need an interrupt.
Regards,
--
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-09 11:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-20 12:35 [PATCH v4 00/22] perf: Add infrastructure and support for Intel PT Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:35 ` [PATCH v4 01/22] perf: Add data_{offset,size} to user_page Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:35 ` [PATCH v4 02/22] perf: Add AUX area to ring buffer for raw data streams Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 7:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 11:16 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 11:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 12:55 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-06 9:08 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-10-06 16:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-06 21:52 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-10-07 15:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 03/22] perf: Support high-order allocations for AUX space Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 04/22] perf: Add a capability for AUX_NO_SG pmus to do software double buffering Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 7:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 11:07 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 11:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 05/22] perf: Add a pmu capability for "exclusive" events Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 06/22] perf: Redirect output from inherited events to parents Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 15:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09 9:54 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 07/22] perf: Add api for pmus to write to AUX space Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 16:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-08 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 08/22] perf: Add AUX record Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 8:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 09/22] perf: Support overwrite mode for AUX area Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 8:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09 9:40 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 10:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09 11:53 ` Alexander Shishkin [this message]
2014-09-09 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09 13:00 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 10/22] perf: Add wakeup watermark control to " Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 11/22] perf: add ITRACE_START record to indicate that tracing has started Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 9:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-09 9:33 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 12/22] x86: Add Intel Processor Trace (INTEL_PT) cpu feature detection Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 13/22] x86: perf: Intel PT and LBR/BTS are mutually exclusive Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 14/22] x86: perf: intel_pt: Intel PT PMU driver Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 15/22] x86: perf: intel_bts: Add BTS " Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 16/22] perf: Add rb_{alloc,free}_kernel api Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 9:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 17/22] perf: Add a helper to copy AUX data in the kernel Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 18/22] perf: Add a helper for looking up pmus by type Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 19/22] perf: Add infrastructure for using AUX data in perf samples Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 9:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 20/22] perf: Allocate ring buffers for inherited per-task kernel events Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-09 9:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 21/22] perf: Allow AUX sampling for multiple events Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-20 12:36 ` [PATCH v4 22/22] perf: Allow sampling of inherited events Alexander Shishkin
2014-08-25 6:21 ` [PATCH v4 00/22] perf: Add infrastructure and support for Intel PT Adrian Hunter
2014-09-01 16:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 16:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-01 17:17 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <CANLsYky0vuwo7MwKbiGXypkLkrX7k6BOEf2uej3-Z3-HZHKd7w@mail.gmail.com>
2014-09-04 8:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-05 13:34 ` Mathieu Poirier
2014-09-08 11:55 ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-09-08 13:08 ` Michael Williams
2014-09-08 13:29 ` Al Grant
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