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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] document ->sighand protection, rcu_read_unlock() deadlocks
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:56:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141023195604.GA7899@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140928214357.GA17874@redhat.com>

Ping ;)

Paul, should I resend or you do not think this can go via your rcu
tree?

On 09/28, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> Paul, could you take these 2 doc patches? Assuming that you agree
> with the comments, of course.
>
> On 09/24, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 09:03:48PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > >
> > > Paul, will you agree if we turn it into
> > > ...
> > >      /*
> > >       * On the succesfull return we hold ->siglock. According to comment
> > >       * above rcu_read_unlock() this is against the rules, but scheduler
> > >       * locks are fine under this lock, signal_wake_up() takes them too.
> > >       */
> > >      rcu_read_unlock();
> >
> > If you guys continue the guarantee of no deadlock, I am OK with this change.
>
> Heh. Contrary to what I said (and you all were agree ;), this deadlock
> is actually possible, so we can not remove the deadlock-avoidance from
> __lock_task_sighand(). And I do not see how we can cleanup this code
> because preempt_disable() + spin_lock() is not -rt friendly.
>
> I think this deserves a bit of documentation, see 2/2. Perhaps this is
> just me, but imo the current comment is a bit misleading.
>
> "if the caller of rcu_read_unlock() already holds one of these locks ..."
> is not a problem in fact. I mean, pi_lock or rq->lock are special enough,
> nobody should ever call the outermost rcu_read_unlock() with these locks
> held. rt_mutex->wait_lock should be fine too, also because ->boost_mtx
> is private to rcu_boost() and rcu_read_unlock_special().
>
> But. They can race with each other, and that is why rcu_read_unlock()
> under (say) ->siglock can actually lead to deadlock. And only because
> rt_mutex->wait_lock doesn't disable irqs. Or I am totally confused.
>
> Perhaps we can change rtmutex.c to use raw_spin_lock_irqsave(), or do
> something else...
>
> Oleg.
>
>  include/linux/rcupdate.h |    4 +++-
>  kernel/fork.c            |    5 ++++-
>  kernel/signal.c          |   12 +++++++++++-
>  3 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-23 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-22 16:44 [PATCH 0/2] signal: simplify/document lock_task_sighand() logic Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-22 16:44 ` [PATCH 1/2] signal: simplify deadlock-avoidance in lock_task_sighand() Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-22 18:58   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-22 19:11     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-22 21:24       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-23 11:45         ` Rik van Riel
2014-09-23 14:20           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-23 14:30             ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-23 19:03         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-24  8:36           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-23 15:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-22 16:44 ` [PATCH 2/2] signal: document the RCU protection of ->sighand Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-22 19:00   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-09-23 11:50   ` Rik van Riel
2014-09-28 21:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] document ->sighand protection, rcu_read_unlock() deadlocks Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-28 21:44   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] signal: document the RCU protection of ->sighand Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-28 21:44   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] rcu: more info about potential deadlocks with rcu_read_unlock() Oleg Nesterov
2014-10-23 19:56   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2014-10-23 20:29     ` [PATCH v2 0/2] document ->sighand protection, rcu_read_unlock() deadlocks Paul E. McKenney

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