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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@linux.intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: Revised futex(2) man page for review
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 13:03:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150328120337.GB32047@worktop.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150328114725.GJ27490@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:47:25PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>        FUTEX_WAIT (since Linux 2.6.0)
>               This operation tests that the value at the futex word pointed to
>               by the address uaddr still contains the expected value val,  and
>               if  so,  then sleeps awaiting FUTEX_WAKE on the futex word.  The
>               load of the value of the futex word is an atomic  memory  access
>               (i.e.,  using  atomic  machine  instructions  of  the respective
>               architecture).  This load,  the  comparison  with  the  expected
>               value,  and  starting  to  sleep  are  performed  atomically and
>               totally ordered with respect to other futex  operations  on  the
>               same  futex  word.  If the thread starts to sleep, it is consid‐
>               ered a waiter on this futex word.  If the futex value  does  not
>               match  val,  then  the  call  fails  immediately  with the error
>               EAGAIN.
> 
>               The purpose of the comparison with the expected value is to pre‐
>               vent  lost  wake-ups: If another thread changed the value of the
>               futex word after the calling thread decided to  block  based  on
>               the  prior  value, and if the other thread executed a FUTEX_WAKE
>               operation (or similar wake-up) after the value change and before
>               this  FUTEX_WAIT  operation,  then  the  latter will observe the
>               value change and will not start to sleep.
> 
>               If the timeout argument is non-NULL, its contents specify a rel‐
>               ative   timeout   for   the  wait,  measured  according  to  the
>               CLOCK_MONOTONIC clock.  (This interval will be rounded up to the
>               system clock granularity, and kernel scheduling delays mean that
>               the blocking interval may overrun by a small amount.)  If  time‐
>               out is NULL, the call blocks indefinitely.

Would it not be better to only state that the wait will not return
before the timeout -- unless woken -- and not bother with clock
granularity and scheduling delays?

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-28 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-28  8:53 Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-03-28  8:56 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-03-28 11:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-28 12:03   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-03-31 20:36     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-07-27 11:00       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-07-27 11:10     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-03-31 14:45   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-07-27 11:10     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-07-28  3:16       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-07-28  7:44         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-07-28 17:52           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-07-28 18:09             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-04-14 21:40   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-04-15 10:28     ` Torvald Riegel
2015-07-27 11:10       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-04-27 20:37   ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-27 11:10     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-07-28  2:52   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-07-28  6:39     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-03-31  1:48 ` Rusty Russell
2015-07-27 11:03   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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