From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: rusty@rustcorp.com.au, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
oleg@redhat.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
andi@firstfloor.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, linux@horizon.com,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
David Woodhouse <David.Woodhouse@intel.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 05/10] seqlock: Better document raw_write_seqcount_latch()
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 18:32:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150413163201.GC6040@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150413141213.492831596@infradead.org>
* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> +/**
> * raw_write_seqcount_latch - redirect readers to even/odd copy
> * @s: pointer to seqcount_t
> + *
> + * The latch technique is a multiversion concurrency control method that allows
> + * queries during non atomic modifications. If you can guarantee queries never
> + * interrupt the modification -- e.g. the concurrency is strictly between CPUs
> + * -- you most likely do not need this.
Speling nit:
triton:~/tip> git grep -i 'non-atomic' | wc -l
160
triton:~/tip> git grep -i 'non atomic' | wc -l
21
so I guess 'non-atomic' wins?
> + *
> + * Where the traditional RCU/lockless data structures rely on atomic
> + * modifications to ensure queries observe either the old or the new state the
> + * latch allows the same for non atomic updates. The trade-off is doubling the
> + * cost of storage; we have to maintain two copies of the entire data
> + * structure.
s/non atomic/non-atomic
> + * The query will have a form like:
> + *
> + * struct entry *latch_query(struct latch_struct *latch, ...)
> + * {
> + * struct entry *entry;
> + * unsigned seq, idx;
> + *
> + * do {
> + * seq = latch->seq;
> + * smp_rmb();
> + *
> + * idx = seq & 0x01;
> + * entry = data_query(latch->data[idx], ...);
> + *
> + * smp_rmb();
> + * } while (seq != latch->seq);
Btw., I realize this is just a sample, but couldn't this be written
more optimally as:
do {
seq = READ_ONCE(latch->seq);
smp_read_barrier_depends();
idx = seq & 0x01;
entry = data_query(latch->data[idx], ...);
smp_rmb();
} while (seq != latch->seq);
Note that there's just a single smp_rmb() barrier: the READ_ONCE() is
there to make sure GCC doesn't calculate 'idx' from two separate
reads, but otherwise there's a direct data dependency on latch->seq so
no smp_rmb() is needed, only a data dependency barrier when doing the
first lookup AFAICS?
(This doesn't matter on x86 where smp_rmb() is barrier().)
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-13 16:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-13 14:11 [PATCH v5 00/10] latched RB-trees and __module_address() Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] module: Sanitize RCU usage and locking Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 15:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 15:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 16:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] module: Annotate module version magic Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] module, jump_label: Fix module locking Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] rbtree: Make lockless searches non-fatal Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 15:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 19:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] seqlock: Better document raw_write_seqcount_latch() Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 16:32 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-04-13 17:08 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-04-13 17:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-13 18:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-04-13 18:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-14 10:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 13:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-14 14:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 15:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-13 19:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 19:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-14 10:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] rbtree: Implement generic latch_tree Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 16:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 19:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] module: Optimize __module_address() using a latched RB-tree Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 16:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 12:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] module: Make the mod_tree stuff conditional on PERF_EVENTS || TRACING Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 16:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] module: Use __module_address() for module_address_lookup() Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 14:11 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] module: Rework module_addr_{min,max} Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-13 16:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 2:55 ` Rusty Russell
2015-04-14 6:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-14 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-14 13:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-13 17:02 ` [PATCH v5 00/10] latched RB-trees and __module_address() Ingo Molnar
2015-04-14 2:57 ` Rusty Russell
2015-04-14 6:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-15 4:41 ` Rusty Russell
2015-04-15 9:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-28 2:07 ` Rusty Russell
2015-05-28 11:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-28 23:49 ` Rusty Russell
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