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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: pi3orama <pi3orama@163.com>
Cc: He Kuang <hekuang@huawei.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>,
	"rostedt@goodmis.org" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com"
	<masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	"acme@kernel.org" <acme@kernel.org>,
	"a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"jolsa@kernel.org" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"wangnan0@huawei.com" <wangnan0@huawei.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] bpf: Introduce function for outputing data to perf event
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:09:15 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150713140915.GD9917@danjae.kornet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D441676-21A7-46EE-AAB0-EB529D408082@163.com>

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 10:01:26PM +0800, pi3orama wrote:
> 
> 
> 发自我的 iPhone
> 
> > 在 2015年7月13日,下午9:52,Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org> 写道:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 12:36:27PM +0800, He Kuang wrote:
> >> hi, Alexei
> >> 
> >>> On 2015/7/11 6:10, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> >>>> On 7/10/15 3:03 AM, He Kuang wrote:
> >>>> There're scenarios that we need an eBPF program to record not only
> >>>> kprobe point args, but also the PMU counters, time latencies or the
> >>>> number of cache misses between two probe points and other information
> >>>> when the probe point is entered.
> >>>> 
> >>>> This patch adds a new trace event to establish infrastruction for bpf to
> >>>> output data to perf. Userspace perf tools can detect and use this event
> >>>> as using the existing tracepoint events.
> >>>> 
> >>>> New bpf trace event entry in debugfs:
> >>>> 
> >>>>     /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/events/bpf/bpf_output_data
> >>>> 
> >>>> Userspace perf tools detect the new tracepoint event as:
> >>>> 
> >>>>     bpf:bpf_output_data                          [Tracepoint event]
> >>> 
> >>> Nice! This approach looks cleanest so far.
> >>> 
> >>>> +TRACE_EVENT(bpf_output_data,
> >>>> +
> >>>> +    TP_PROTO(u64 *src, int len),
> >>>> +
> >>>> +    TP_ARGS(src, len),
> >>>> +
> >>>> +    TP_STRUCT__entry(
> >>>> +        __dynamic_array(u64,        buf,        len)
> >>>> +    ),
> >>>> +
> >>>> +    TP_fast_assign(
> >>>> +        memcpy(__get_dynamic_array(buf), src, len * sizeof(u64));
> >>> 
> >>> may be make it 'u8' array? The extra multiply and...
> >> 
> >> OK
> >> 
> >> So the output of three u64 integers (e.g. 0x2060572485, 0x20667b0ff2,
> >> 0x623eb6d) will be this:
> >> 
> >>  dd 994 [000] 139.158180: bpf:bpf_output_data: 85 24 57 60 20 00 00 00
> >>  f2 0f 7b 66 20 00 00 00 6d eb 23 06 00 00 00 00
> >> 
> >> And users are not restricted to u64 type elements. I'll change that.
> > 
> > While this general event format works well, I think it might be hard
> > to know which output came from which program when more than one bpf
> > programs used.
> > 
> > I was thinking about providing custom event formats for each bpf
> > program (if needed).  The event format definitions might be in a
> > specific directory or a bpf object itself.  Then perf can read those
> > formats and print the output data according to the formats.  Maybe we
> > need to add some dynamic event id to match format and data.
> > 
>
> I think we can do it in perf side. Let BPF programs themselves
> encode format information into the array and make perf read and
> decode them. In kernel side simply support raw data should be
> enough, so we can make kernel code as simple as possible.

Yes, of course, I also meant that doing those work all in perf side. :)

Thanks,
Namhyung

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-13 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-10 10:03 [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] Make eBPF programs output " He Kuang
2015-07-10 10:03 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/3] tracing/events: Fix wrong sample output by storing array length instead of size He Kuang
2015-07-17 14:32   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-17 17:24     ` Sara Rostedt
2015-07-17 18:13     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-23 19:36       ` Alex Bennée
2015-07-10 10:03 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/3] tools lib traceevent: Add function to get dynamic arrays length He Kuang
2015-07-10 10:03 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] bpf: Introduce function for outputing data to perf event He Kuang
2015-07-10 22:10   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-13  4:36     ` He Kuang
2015-07-13 13:52       ` Namhyung Kim
2015-07-13 14:01         ` pi3orama
2015-07-13 14:09           ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2015-07-13 14:29             ` pi3orama
2015-07-14  1:43               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-14 11:54                 ` He Kuang
2015-07-17  4:11                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-17  4:14                     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-07-17  4:27                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-23 11:54                         ` He Kuang
2015-07-23 20:49                           ` llvm bpf debug info. " Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-24  3:20                             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-24  4:16                               ` He Kuang
2015-07-25 10:04                                 ` He Kuang
2015-07-28  2:18                                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-29  9:38                                     ` He Kuang
2015-07-29 17:13                                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-29 20:00                                         ` pi3orama
2015-07-29 22:20                                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-31 10:18                                         ` Wangnan (F)
2015-07-31 10:20                                           ` [LLVM PATCH] BPF: add FRAMEADDR support Wang Nan
2015-07-31 10:21                                           ` [LLVM CLANG PATCH] BPF: add __builtin_bpf_typeid() Wang Nan
2015-07-31 10:48                                           ` llvm bpf debug info. Re: [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] bpf: Introduce function for outputing data to perf event pi3orama
2015-08-03 19:44                                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-08-04  9:01                                             ` Cc llvmdev: " Wangnan (F)
2015-08-05  1:58                                               ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-05  2:05                                                 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-05  6:51                                                   ` [LLVMdev] " Wangnan (F)
2015-08-05  7:11                                                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-08-05  8:28                                                       ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-06  3:22                                                         ` [llvm-dev] " Alexei Starovoitov
2015-08-06  4:35                                                           ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-06  6:55                                                             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-08-12  2:34                                             ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-12  4:57                                               ` [llvm-dev] " Alexei Starovoitov
2015-08-12  5:28                                                 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-12 13:15                                                   ` Brenden Blanco
2015-08-13  6:24                                                     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-05  8:59                                         ` [LLVMdev] Cc llvmdev: " He Kuang
2015-08-06  3:41                                           ` [llvm-dev] " Alexei Starovoitov
2015-08-06  4:31                                             ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-06  6:50                                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-13  8:29   ` Peter Zijlstra

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