From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Dealing with the NMI mess
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:30:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150724133013.GI19282@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150724132128.GA3612@1wt.eu>
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 03:21:28PM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 09:03:42AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 14:43:04 +0200
> > Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > > I'm not too familiar with how to use hw breakpoints, but I'm guessing
> > > > (correct me if I'm wrong) that breakpoints on code that trigger when
> > > > executed, but watchpoints on data trigger when accessed. Then
> > > > copy_from_user_inatomic() would only trigger on watchpoints (it's not
> > > > executing that code, at least I hope it isn't!), and those wont bother
> > > > us.
> > >
> > > These things can be: RW, W, X.
> > >
> > > Sure, hitting a user X watchpoint is going to be 'interesting', but its
> > > fairly easy to hit a RW one.
> >
> > But do we care if we do hit one? The return from the #DB handler can
> > use a RET. Right?
Look at do_debug(), it has lovely bits like:
preempt_conditional_sti();
in it, we do _NOT_ want to be re-enabling interrupts if we're called
from an !IF context, that'd be _bad_.
> My understanding is that by using RET we can't set the RF flag and #DB
> will immediately strike again when the operation is attempted again. Thus
> we have to completely disable the breakpoints on leaving after the first
> one strikes, resulting in some userland breakpoints being missed. Maybe
> it can be accepted as a limitation when perf is running. I don't know if
> the output of perf is that relevant when a debugger is present BTW.
The patch I posted will re-enable the breakpoints before returning to
userspace. So userspace will only 'miss' events generated by the kernel.
Missing reads from the kernel is not a problem -- and maybe even
expected, but certainly unavoidable.
Missing updates from the kernel might be a problem, you'd get a variable
change content even though you have a W watchpoint on it, that'd be
surprising.
Then again, I suppose we can argue the variable changed through another
mapping and watchpoints work on the virtual address, so tough cookies or
somesuch -- the kernel could in fact do this on highmem kernel anyway.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-24 13:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-23 20:21 Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-23 20:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-23 20:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-23 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-23 21:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-23 21:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-23 21:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-23 21:50 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-23 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-23 21:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-23 21:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-24 8:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 9:02 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 11:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 13:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 13:21 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 13:30 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-07-24 13:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 14:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 14:59 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 15:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 15:26 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 15:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 15:33 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 18:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-24 18:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-24 19:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 19:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-24 20:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 21:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 21:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-30 15:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-30 21:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-30 21:58 ` Brian Gerst
2015-07-30 22:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-07-31 4:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-31 5:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-31 7:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-31 8:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-31 9:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-31 10:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-31 10:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-31 10:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-09-07 5:39 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-09-07 7:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-07 8:19 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-09-07 10:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-07 17:01 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-09-07 17:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-07 19:30 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-09-07 21:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-08 16:21 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-07-24 23:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-24 15:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 15:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 15:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-24 16:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 16:08 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 16:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 16:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-24 16:25 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 17:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-24 17:10 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-24 17:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-30 15:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-24 17:21 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-23 20:52 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-23 20:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-23 21:07 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-23 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-23 21:18 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-23 21:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-23 21:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-23 21:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-23 21:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-23 21:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-23 22:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-24 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-24 11:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-23 21:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-23 21:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-23 21:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-24 16:33 ` Raymond Jennings
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