From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/10] sched: Migrate sched to use new tick dependency mask model
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 16:00:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150803140046.GK19282@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1437669735-8786-8-git-send-email-fweisbec@gmail.com>
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 06:42:12PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> Instead of providing asynchronous checks for the nohz subsystem to verify
> sched tick dependency, migrate sched to the new mask.
>
> The easiest is to recycle the current asynchronous tick dependency check
> which verifies the class of the current task and its requirements for
> periodic preemption checks.
>
> We need to evaluate this tick dependency on three places:
>
> 1) Task enqueue: One or more tasks have been enqueued, we must check
> if those are competing with the current task.
>
> 2) Task dequeue: A possibly competing task has been dequeued, clear the
> tick dependency if needed.
>
> 3) schedule(): we might be switching to a task of another scheduler
> class. Each class has its preemption rules, we must re-evaluate it.
This is insane.. You add a whole bunch of work per wakeup/sleep/context
switch to avoid some work at tick time. That's a broken trade-off.
We can context switch _waaaay_ more than we have ticks.
Furthermore, you do tons of pointless work, we call add_nr_running()
from the individual classes, and then your routine goes and checks what
class we're in etc..
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-03 14:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-23 16:42 [PATCH 00/10] nohz: Tick dependency mask v2 Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 01/10] nohz: Remove idle task special case Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 02/10] nohz: Restart nohz full tick from irq exit Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 03/10] nohz: Move tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick() above its users Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 04/10] nohz: Remove useless argument on tick_nohz_task_switch() Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 12:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 12:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 13:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 05/10] nohz: New tick dependency mask Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-24 16:55 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-24 17:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-24 17:43 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-08-03 12:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 13:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 13:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 13:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 12:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 13:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 13:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 13:55 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 14:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 06/10] perf: Migrate perf to use new tick dependency mask model Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 07/10] sched: Migrate sched " Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-23 16:55 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-24 16:56 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-29 13:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 14:00 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-08-03 14:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 17:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 17:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-04 7:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-10 14:02 ` Juri Lelli
2015-08-10 14:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-10 14:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-10 15:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-10 15:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-10 15:43 ` Juri Lelli
2015-08-10 16:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-10 15:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 08/10] posix-cpu-timers: Migrate " Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-24 16:57 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-29 13:23 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-29 17:24 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-30 0:44 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-30 14:31 ` Luiz Capitulino
2015-07-30 14:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-30 19:35 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-30 19:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-30 19:52 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-31 14:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 15:59 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-08-03 18:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 17:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-03 17:39 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-03 19:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-06 17:13 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 09/10] sched-clock: " Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-23 16:42 ` [PATCH 10/10] nohz: Remove task switch obsolete tick dependency check Frederic Weisbecker
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