From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
Cc: Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
lizefan@huawei.com, cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
kernel-team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified hierarchy
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 09:41:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150819164113.GB20716@mtj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1439954620.3479.30.camel@gmail.com>
Hello, Mike.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 05:23:40AM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> Hm. I know of a big data outfit to which attach/detach performance was
> important enough for them to have plucked an old experimental overhead
> reduction hack (mine) off lkml, and shipped it. It must have mattered a
> LOT for them (not suicidal crash test dummies) to have done that.
There haven't been any guidelines on cgroup usage. Of course people
have been developing in all directions. It's a natural learning
process and there are use cases which can be served by migrating
processes back and forth. Nobody is trying to prevent that; however,
if one examines how resources and their associations need to be
tracked for accounting and control, it's evident that there are
inherent trade-offs between migration and the stuff which happens
while not migrating and it's clear which side is more important.
Most problems can be solved in different ways and I'm doubtful that
e.g. bouncing jobs to worker threads would be more expensive than
migrating the worker back and forth in a lot of cases. If migrating
threads around floats somebody's boat, that's fine but that has never
been and can't be the focus of design and optimization, not at the
cost of the actual hot paths.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-19 16:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-03 22:41 [PATCHSET sched,cgroup] " Tejun Heo
2015-08-03 22:41 ` [PATCH 1/3] cgroup: define controller file conventions Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 8:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-04 14:51 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 8:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-04 14:53 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 19:31 ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2015-08-05 0:39 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-08-05 7:47 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-06 2:30 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-08-07 18:17 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-17 22:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-08-17 21:34 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-08-03 22:41 ` [PATCH 2/3] sched: Misc preps for cgroup unified hierarchy interface Tejun Heo
2015-08-03 22:41 ` [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified hierarchy Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 9:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-04 15:10 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-05 9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-05 14:31 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-17 20:35 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <CAPM31RJTf0v=2v90kN6-HM9xUGab_k++upO0Ym=irmfO9+BbFw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-08-18 4:03 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-18 20:31 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-18 23:39 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-08-19 16:23 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-19 3:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-19 16:41 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2015-08-20 4:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-20 7:52 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-20 8:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-21 19:26 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-22 18:29 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 15:47 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-08-24 17:04 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 19:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-24 20:00 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-08-24 20:25 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:00 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 21:12 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:15 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 20:54 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 21:02 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:10 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 21:17 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:19 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 21:40 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 22:03 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 22:49 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 23:15 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-25 2:36 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-08-25 21:13 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-25 9:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-25 10:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-25 19:18 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 20:52 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 21:36 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:58 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 22:19 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 23:06 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-25 21:02 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-02 17:03 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-09 12:49 ` Paul Turner
2015-09-12 14:40 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-17 14:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 14:53 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-17 15:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 15:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 15:52 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-17 15:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 23:29 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-18 11:27 ` Paul Turner
2015-10-01 18:46 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-15 11:42 ` Paul Turner
2015-10-23 22:21 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-24 4:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-25 2:18 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-25 3:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-27 3:16 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 5:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-27 5:46 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 5:56 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-27 6:00 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 6:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-25 3:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-25 9:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-25 10:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-25 10:47 ` Florian Weimer
2015-10-25 11:58 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-25 13:17 ` Florian Weimer
2015-10-25 13:40 ` Getrandom wrapper Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-26 13:32 ` Florian Weimer
2015-10-26 14:10 ` [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified hierarchy Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-04 19:32 ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
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