From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>, cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
kernel-team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Getrandom wrapper
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 09:40:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151025134000.GB13940@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <562CD663.5010506@redhat.com>
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 02:17:23PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
>
> I think we can reach consensus for an implementation which makes this code
>
> unsigned char session_key[32];
> getrandom (session_key, sizeof (session_key), 0);
> install_session_key (session_key);
>
> correct. That is, no error handling code for ENOMEM, ENOSYS, EINTR,
> ENOMEM or short reads is necessary. It seems that several getrandom
> wrappers currently built into applications do not get this completely right.
The only error handling code that is necessary is a fallback for
ENOSYS. getrandom(2) won't return ENOMEM, and if the number of bytes
requested is less than or equal to 256 bytes, it won't return EINTR
either. If the user requests more than 256 bytes, they're doing
something insane and almost certainly not cryptographic, and so
letting it be interruptible should be fine. (OpenBSD will outright
*fail* a request greater than 256 bytes with an EIO error in their
getentropy(2) system call. But that means the insane application
won't get any randomness at all in their overly large, insane request,
and if they're that insane, they're probably not checking error
conditions either.)
As far as ENOSYS is concerned, a fallback gets tricky; you could try
to open /dev/urandom, and read from it, but that can fail due to
EMFILE, ENFILE, ENOENT (if they are chrooted and /dev wasn't properly
populated). So attempting a fallback for ENOSYS can actually expand
the number of potential error conditions for the userspace application
to (fail to) handle. I suppose you could attempt the fallback and
call abort(2) if the fallback fails, which is probably the safe and
secure thing to do, but applications might not appreciate getting
terminated without getting a chance to do something (but if the
something is just calling random(3), maybe not giving them a chance to
do something insane is the appropriate thing to do....)
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-25 13:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-03 22:41 [PATCHSET sched,cgroup] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified hierarchy Tejun Heo
2015-08-03 22:41 ` [PATCH 1/3] cgroup: define controller file conventions Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 8:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-04 14:51 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 8:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-04 14:53 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 19:31 ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2015-08-05 0:39 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-08-05 7:47 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-06 2:30 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-08-07 18:17 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-17 22:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-08-17 21:34 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-08-03 22:41 ` [PATCH 2/3] sched: Misc preps for cgroup unified hierarchy interface Tejun Heo
2015-08-03 22:41 ` [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified hierarchy Tejun Heo
2015-08-04 9:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-04 15:10 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-05 9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-05 14:31 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-17 20:35 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <CAPM31RJTf0v=2v90kN6-HM9xUGab_k++upO0Ym=irmfO9+BbFw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-08-18 4:03 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-18 20:31 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-18 23:39 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-08-19 16:23 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-19 3:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-19 16:41 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-20 4:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-20 7:52 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-20 8:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-21 19:26 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-22 18:29 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 15:47 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-08-24 17:04 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 19:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-24 20:00 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-08-24 20:25 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:00 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 21:12 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:15 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 20:54 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 21:02 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:10 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 21:17 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:19 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 21:40 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 22:03 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 22:49 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 23:15 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-25 2:36 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2015-08-25 21:13 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-25 9:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-25 10:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-25 19:18 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 20:52 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 21:36 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 21:58 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-24 22:19 ` Tejun Heo
2015-08-24 23:06 ` Paul Turner
2015-08-25 21:02 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-02 17:03 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-09 12:49 ` Paul Turner
2015-09-12 14:40 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-17 14:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 14:53 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-17 15:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 15:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 15:52 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-17 15:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 23:29 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-18 11:27 ` Paul Turner
2015-10-01 18:46 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-15 11:42 ` Paul Turner
2015-10-23 22:21 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-24 4:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-25 2:18 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-25 3:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-27 3:16 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 5:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-27 5:46 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 5:56 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-27 6:00 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27 6:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-25 3:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-25 9:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-25 10:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-25 10:47 ` Florian Weimer
2015-10-25 11:58 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-25 13:17 ` Florian Weimer
2015-10-25 13:40 ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2015-10-26 13:32 ` Getrandom wrapper Florian Weimer
2015-10-26 14:10 ` [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified hierarchy Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-04 19:32 ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
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