From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@gmail.com>,
Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@petrovitsch.priv.at>,
Chris J Arges <chris.j.arges@canonical.com>,
live-patching@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 03/20] x86/stackvalidate: Compile-time stack validation
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:54:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150821075449.GA10443@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150820040050.GC2944@treble.redhat.com>
* Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> +Why do we need stack validation?
> +--------------------------------
> +
> +Here are some of the benefits of validating stack metadata:
> +
> +a) More reliable stack traces for frame pointer enabled kernels
> +
> + Frame pointers are used for debugging purposes. They allow runtime
> + code and debug tools to be able to walk the stack to determine the
> + chain of function call sites that led to the currently executing
> + code.
> +
> + For some architectures, frame pointers are enabled by
> + CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER. For some other architectures they may be
> + required by the ABI (sometimes referred to as "backchain pointers").
> +
> + For C code, gcc automatically generates instructions for setting up
> + frame pointers when the -fno-omit-frame-pointer option is used.
> +
> + But for asm code, the frame setup instructions have to be written by
> + hand, which most people don't do. So the end result is that
> + CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER is honored for C code but not for most asm code.
> +
> + For stack traces based on frame pointers to be reliable, all
> + functions which call other functions must first create a stack frame
> + and update the frame pointer. If a first function doesn't properly
> + create a stack frame before calling a second function, the *caller*
> + of the first function will be skipped on the stack trace.
> +
> + The benefit of stackvalidate here is that it ensures that *all*
> + functions honor CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER. As a result, no functions will
> + ever [*] be skipped on a stack trace.
> +
> + [*] unless an interrupt or exception has occurred at the very
> + beginning of a function before the stack frame has been created,
> + or at the very end of the function after the stack frame has been
> + destroyed. This is an inherent limitation of frame pointers.
What this section does not point out is the actual effects of missing frame
pointer annotations. I.e. how about quoting a before/after stack backtrace to
demonstrate it?
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-21 7:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-14 3:10 [PATCH v10 00/20] " Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 01/20] x86/asm: Frame pointer macro cleanup Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 02/20] x86/asm: Add C versions of frame pointer macros Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 03/20] x86/stackvalidate: Compile-time stack validation Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-15 7:23 ` Andrew Morton
2015-08-15 12:49 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-19 10:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-20 4:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-21 7:54 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-08-21 13:32 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-22 9:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 04/20] x86/stackvalidate: Add file and directory ignores Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 05/20] x86/stackvalidate: Add ignore macros Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 06/20] x86/xen: Add stack frame dependency to hypercall inline asm calls Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 07/20] x86/paravirt: Add stack frame dependency to PVOP " Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 08/20] x86/paravirt: Create a stack frame in PV_CALLEE_SAVE_REGS_THUNK Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 09/20] x86/amd: Set ELF function type for vide() Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 10/20] x86/reboot: Add ljmp instructions to stackvalidate whitelist Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 11/20] x86/xen: Add xen_cpuid() and xen_setup_gdt() to stackvalidate whitelists Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 12/20] x86/asm/crypto: Create stack frames in aesni-intel_asm.S Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 13/20] x86/asm/crypto: Move .Lbswap_mask data to .rodata section Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 14/20] x86/asm/crypto: Move jump_table " Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 15/20] x86/asm/crypto: Create stack frames in clmul_ghash_mul/update() Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 16/20] x86/asm/entry: Create stack frames in thunk functions Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 17/20] x86/asm/acpi: Create a stack frame in do_suspend_lowlevel() Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 18/20] x86/asm: Create stack frames in rwsem functions Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 19/20] x86/asm/efi: Create a stack frame in efi_call() Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 9:11 ` Matt Fleming
2015-08-14 14:07 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-08-14 3:10 ` [PATCH v10 20/20] x86/asm/power: Create stack frames in hibernate_asm_64.S Josh Poimboeuf
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