From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: Remove misleading examples of the barriers in wake_*()
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:46:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150921174611.GA28059@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150918064956.GQ3816@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 09/18, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> the text is correct, right?
Yes, it looks good to me and helpful.
But damn. I forgot why exactly try_to_wake_up() needs rmb() after
->on_cpu check... It looks reasonable in any case, but I do not
see any strong reason immediately.
Say,
p->sched_contributes_to_load = !!task_contributes_to_load(p);
p->state = TASK_WAKING;
we can actually do this before "while (p->on_cpu)", afaics. However
we must not do this before the previous p->on_rq check.
So perhaps this rmb() helps to ensure task_contributes_to_load() can't
happen before p->on_rq check...
As for "p->state = TASK_WAKING" we have the control dependency in both
cases. But the modern fashion suggests to use _CTRL(). Although cpu_relax()
should imply barrier(), but afaik this is not documented.
In short, I got lost ;) Now I don't even understand why we do not need
another rmb() between p->on_rq and p->on_cpu. Suppose a thread T does
set_current_state(...);
schedule();
it can be preempted in between, after that we have "on_rq && !on_cpu".
Then it gets CPU again and calls schedule() which clears on_rq.
What guarantees that if ttwu() sees on_rq == 0 cleared by schedule()
then it can _not_ still see the old value of on_cpu == 0?
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-21 17:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-08 1:14 Boqun Feng
2015-09-09 19:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-10 2:16 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-10 17:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-11 16:59 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-17 13:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 17:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-18 6:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-21 17:46 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-10-06 16:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 16:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 16:35 ` Will Deacon
2015-10-06 19:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 11:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 15:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-24 13:21 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-06 16:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-11 15:26 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-12 0:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-12 9:06 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-12 11:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-12 13:09 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-12 16:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
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