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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: Remove misleading examples of the barriers in wake_*()
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 18:24:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151006162423.GH11639@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151006160450.GS3604@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 06:04:50PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 07:46:11PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 09/18, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >
> > > the text is correct, right?
> > 
> > Yes, it looks good to me and helpful.
> > 
> > But damn. I forgot why exactly try_to_wake_up() needs rmb() after
> > ->on_cpu check... It looks reasonable in any case, but I do not
> > see any strong reason immediately.
> 
> I read it like the smp_rmb() we have for
> acquire__after_spin_is_unlocked. Except, as you note below, we need to
> need an smp_read_barrier_depends for control barriers as well....

> Yes, but I'm not sure we should go write:
> 
> 	while (READ_ONCE_CTRL(p->on_cpu))
> 		cpu_relax();
> 
> Or:
> 
> 	while (p->on_cpu)
> 		cpu_relax();
> 
> 	smp_read_barrier_depends();
> 
> It seems to me that doing the smp_mb() (for Alpha) inside the loop might
> be sub-optimal.

And also referring to:

  lkml.kernel.org/r/20150812133109.GA8266@redhat.com

Do we want something like this?

#define smp_spin_acquire(cond) do {		\
	while (cond)				\
		cpu_relax();			\
	smp_read_barrier_depends(); /* ctrl */	\
	smp_rmb(); /* ctrl + rmb := acquire */	\
} while (0)

And use it like:

	smp_spin_acquire(raw_spin_is_locked(&task->pi_lock));

That might work for your task_work_run() and the scheduler case,
although it might be somewhat awkward for sem_wait_array().

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-06 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-08  1:14 Boqun Feng
2015-09-09 19:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-10  2:16   ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-10 17:55     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-11 16:59       ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-17 13:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 17:01         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-18  6:49           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-21 17:46             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-06 16:04               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 16:24                 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-10-06 16:35                   ` Will Deacon
2015-10-06 19:57                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 11:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 15:40                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-24 13:21         ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-06 16:06           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-11 15:26             ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-12  0:40               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-12  9:06                 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-12 11:54                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-12 13:09                     ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-12 16:26                       ` Peter Zijlstra

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