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From: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>
To: bsegall@google.com
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steve Muckle <steve.muckle@linaro.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"daniel.lezcano@linaro.org" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"mturquette@baylibre.com" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Juri Lelli <Juri.Lelli@arm.com>,
	"sgurrappadi@nvidia.com" <sgurrappadi@nvidia.com>,
	"pang.xunlei@zte.com.cn" <pang.xunlei@zte.com.cn>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] sched/fair: Get rid of scaling utilization by capacity_orig
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 07:39:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150921233900.GE11102@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xm26d1xbader.fsf@sword-of-the-dawn.mtv.corp.google.com>

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:30:04AM -0700, bsegall@google.com wrote:
> > But first, I think as load_sum and load_avg can afford NICE_0_LOAD with either high
> > or low resolution. So we have no reason to have low resolution (10bits) load_avg
> > when NICE_0_LOAD has high resolution (20bits), because load_avg = runnable% * load,
> > as opposed to now we have load_avg = runnable% * scale_load_down(load).
> >
> > We get rid of all scale_load_down() for runnable load average?
> 
> Hmm, LOAD_AVG_MAX * prio_to_weight[0] is 4237627662, ie barely within a
> 32-bit unsigned long, but in fact LOAD_AVG_MAX * MAX_SHARES is already
> going to give errors on 32-bit (even with the old code in fact). This
> should probably be fixed... somehow (dividing by 4 for load_sum on
> 32-bit would work, though be ugly. Reducing MAX_SHARES by 2 bits on
> 32-bit might have made sense but would be a weird difference between 32
> and 64, and could break userspace anyway, so it's presumably too late
> for that).
> 
> 64-bit has ~30 bits free, so this would be fine so long as SLR is 0 on
> 32-bit.
> 

load_avg has no LOAD_AVG_MAX term in it, it is runnable% * load, IOW, load_avg <= load.
So, on 32bit, cfs_rq's load_avg can host 2^32/prio_to_weight[0]/1024 = 47, with 20bits
load resolution. This is ok, because struct load_weight's load is also unsigned
long. If overflown, cfs_rq->load.weight will be overflown in the first place.

However, after a second thought, this is not quite right. Because load_avg is not
necessarily no greater than load, since load_avg has blocked load in it. Although,
load_avg is still at the same level as load (converging to be <= load), we may not
want the risk to overflow on 32bit.

> > +/*
> > + * NICE_0's weight (visible to user) and its load (invisible to user) have
> > + * independent resolution, but they should be well calibrated. We use scale_load()
> > + * and scale_load_down(w) to convert between them, the following must be true:
> > + * scale_load(prio_to_weight[20]) == NICE_0_LOAD
> > + */
> >  #define NICE_0_LOAD		SCHED_LOAD_SCALE
> >  #define NICE_0_SHIFT		SCHED_LOAD_SHIFT
> 
> I still think tying the scale_load shift to be the same as the
> SCHED_CAPACITY/etc shift is silly, and tying the NICE_0_LOAD/SHIFT in is
> worse. Honestly if I was going to change anything it would be to define
> NICE_0_LOAD/SHIFT entirely separately from SCHED_LOAD_SCALE/SHIFT.

If NICE_0_LOAD is nice-0's load, and if SCHED_LOAD_SHIFT is to say how to get 
nice-0's load, I don't understand why you want to separate them.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-22  7:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-14 16:23 [PATCH 0/6] sched/fair: Compute capacity invariant load/utilization tracking Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 1/6] sched/fair: Make load tracking frequency scale-invariant Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-13 11:03   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 2/6] sched/fair: Convert arch_scale_cpu_capacity() from weak function to #define Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-02  9:31   ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-02 12:41     ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-03 19:58     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-04  7:26       ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-07 13:25         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-11 13:21         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-11 14:45           ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-13 11:03   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched/fair: Make utilization tracking cpu scale-invariant Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-14 23:04   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-04  7:52     ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-13 11:04     ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Make utilization tracking CPU scale-invariant tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched/fair: Name utilization related data and functions consistently Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-04  9:08   ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-11 16:35     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-13 11:04   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 5/6] sched/fair: Get rid of scaling utilization by capacity_orig Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-03 23:51   ` Steve Muckle
2015-09-07 15:37     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-07 16:21       ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-07 18:54         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-07 19:47           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 12:47             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-08  7:22           ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 12:26             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 12:52               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 14:06                 ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 14:35                   ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-08 14:40                     ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 14:31                 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-08 15:33                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-09 22:23                     ` bsegall
2015-09-10 11:06                       ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-10 11:11                         ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-10 12:10                           ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-11  0:50                             ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-10 17:23                         ` bsegall
2015-09-08 16:53                   ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-09  9:43                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-09  9:45                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-09 11:13                       ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-11 17:22                         ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-17  9:51                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 10:38                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-21  1:16                             ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-21 17:30                               ` bsegall
2015-09-21 23:39                                 ` Yuyang Du [this message]
2015-09-22 17:18                                   ` bsegall
2015-09-22 23:22                                     ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-23 16:54                                       ` bsegall
2015-09-24  0:22                                         ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-30 12:52                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-11  7:46                     ` Leo Yan
2015-09-11 10:02                       ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-11 14:11                         ` Leo Yan
2015-09-09 19:07                 ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-10 10:06                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 13:39               ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 14:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 15:17                   ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 12:50             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-08 14:01               ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 14:27                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-09 20:15               ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-10 10:07                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-11  0:28                   ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-11 10:31                     ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-11 17:05                       ` bsegall
2015-09-11 18:24                         ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-14 17:36                           ` bsegall
2015-09-14 12:56                         ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-14 17:34                           ` bsegall
2015-09-14 22:56                             ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-15 17:11                               ` bsegall
2015-09-15 18:39                                 ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-16 17:06                                   ` bsegall
2015-09-17  2:31                                     ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-15  8:43                             ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-16 15:36                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 11:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-13 11:04       ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 6/6] sched/fair: Initialize task load and utilization before placing task on rq Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-13 11:05   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-16 20:46 ` [PATCH 0/6] sched/fair: Compute capacity invariant load/utilization tracking Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-17 11:29   ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-17 11:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-31  9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-02  9:51   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-07 12:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-07 13:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-07 13:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-07 14:44     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-13 11:06       ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Defer calling scaling functions tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann

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