From: paul.szabo@sydney.edu.au
To: umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CFS scheduler unfairly prefers pinned tasks
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 07:44:16 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201510062044.t96KiGXd021728@como.maths.usyd.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1444133838.2832.141.camel@gmail.com>
Dear Mike,
>> ... the CFS is meant to be fair, using things like vruntime
>> to preempt, and throttling. Why are those pinned tasks not preempted or
>> throttled?
>
> Imagine you own a 8192 CPU box for a moment, all CPUs having one pinned
> task, plus one extra unpinned task, and ponder what would have to happen
> in order to meet your utilization expectation. ...
Sorry but the kernel contradicts. As per my original report, things are
"fair" in the case of:
- with CGROUP controls and the two kinds of processes run by
different users, when there is just one un-pinned process
and that is so on my quad-core i5-3470 baby or my 32-core 4*E5-4627v2
server (and everywhere that I tested). The kernel is smart and gets it
right for one un-pinned process: why not for two?
Now re-testing further (on some machines with CGROUP): on the i5-3470
things are fair still with one un-pinned (become un-fair with two), on
the 4*E5-4627v2 are fair still with 4 un-pinned (become un-fair with 5).
Does this suggest that the kernel does things right within each physical
CPU, but breaks across several (or exact contrary)? Maybe not: on a
2*E5530 machine, things are fair with just one un-pinned and un-fair
with 2 already.
> What you're seeing is not a bug. No task can occupy more than one CPU
> at a time, making space reservation on multiple CPUs a very bad idea.
I agree that pinning may be bad... should not the kernel penalize the
badly pinned processes?
Cheers, Paul
Paul Szabo psz@maths.usyd.edu.au http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/psz/
School of Mathematics and Statistics University of Sydney Australia
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-06 20:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-05 21:48 paul.szabo
2015-10-06 2:45 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-06 10:06 ` paul.szabo
2015-10-06 12:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-06 20:44 ` paul.szabo [this message]
2015-10-07 1:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-08 8:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-08 10:54 ` paul.szabo
2015-10-08 11:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-10 13:22 ` [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop Mike Galbraith
2015-10-10 14:03 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-10 14:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-10 17:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-10 17:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-11 2:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-11 17:42 ` 4.3 group scheduling regression Mike Galbraith
2015-10-12 7:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-12 7:44 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-12 8:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-12 0:53 ` Yuyang Du
2015-10-12 9:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-12 2:12 ` Yuyang Du
2015-10-12 10:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-12 19:55 ` Yuyang Du
2015-10-13 4:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-12 20:42 ` Yuyang Du
2015-10-13 8:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-13 0:35 ` Yuyang Du
2015-10-13 8:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-13 0:37 ` Yuyang Du
2015-10-12 11:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-12 19:32 ` Yuyang Du
2015-10-13 8:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-13 2:22 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-12 8:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-10 20:14 ` [patch] sched: disable task group re-weighting on the desktop paul.szabo
2015-10-11 2:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-11 9:25 ` paul.szabo
2015-10-11 12:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-11 19:46 ` paul.szabo
2015-10-12 1:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-08 14:25 ` CFS scheduler unfairly prefers pinned tasks Mike Galbraith
2015-10-08 21:55 ` paul.szabo
2015-10-09 1:56 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-09 2:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-10-11 9:43 ` paul.szabo
2015-10-10 3:59 ` Wanpeng Li
2015-10-10 7:58 ` Wanpeng Li
2015-10-11 20:59 paul.szabo
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