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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 1/3] bpf: enable non-root eBPF programs
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 11:28:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151009092822.GC18316@pox.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1444328452.3935641.405110585.76554E06@webmail.messagingengine.com>

On 10/08/15 at 08:20pm, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
> Hi Alexei,
> 
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015, at 07:23, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > The feature is controlled by sysctl kernel.unprivileged_bpf_disabled.
> > This toggle defaults to off (0), but can be set true (1).  Once true,
> > bpf programs and maps cannot be accessed from unprivileged process,
> > and the toggle cannot be set back to false.
> 
> This approach seems fine to me.
> 
> I am wondering if it makes sense to somehow allow ebpf access per
> namespace? I currently have no idea how that could work and on which
> namespace type to depend or going with a prctl or even cgroup maybe. The
> rationale behind this is, that maybe some namespaces like openstack
> router namespaces could make usage of advanced ebpf capabilities in the
> kernel, while other namespaces, especially where untrusted third parties
> are hosted, shouldn't have access to those facilities.
> 
> In that way, hosters would be able to e.g. deploy more efficient
> performance monitoring container (which should still need not to run as
> root) while the majority of the users has no access to that. Or think
> about routing instances in some namespaces, etc. etc.

The standard way of granting privileges like this for containers is
through CAP_ which does seem like a good fit for this as well and would
also solve your mentioned openstack use case.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-09  9:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-08  5:23 [PATCH v2 net-next 0/3] bpf: unprivileged Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-08  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 1/3] bpf: enable non-root eBPF programs Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-08 17:45   ` Kees Cook
2015-10-08 18:20   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-08 22:05     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-09 11:45       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-09 17:30         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-09 17:45           ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-09 17:59             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-09  9:28     ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2015-10-08  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 2/3] bpf: charge user for creation of BPF maps and programs Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-08  5:23 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 3/3] bpf: add unprivileged bpf tests Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-08 17:46   ` Kees Cook
2015-10-08 17:55     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-13  2:22 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 0/3] bpf: unprivileged David Miller

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