From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
tip-bot for Andrey Ryabinin <tipbot@zytor.com>,
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Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>
Subject: Re: [tip:locking/urgent] compiler, atomics: Provide READ_ONCE_NOCHECK ()
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:06:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151014170605.GZ3910@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT4Y+bXV602Xe83FE7f=rGSQW+7WzdOFj6H2CWmS4irArRj_A@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 06:29:59PM +0200, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Andrey Ryabinin
> <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 10/14/2015 06:50 PM, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Paul E. McKenney
> >> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 08:28:43AM -0700, tip-bot for Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
> >>>> Commit-ID: 4115ffdf4d6f8986a7abe1dd522c163f599bc0e6
> >>>> Gitweb: http://git.kernel.org/tip/4115ffdf4d6f8986a7abe1dd522c163f599bc0e6
> >>>> Author: Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>
> >>>> AuthorDate: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:28:07 +0300
> >>>> Committer: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> >>>> CommitDate: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:44:06 +0200
> >>>>
> >>>> compiler, atomics: Provide READ_ONCE_NOCHECK()
> >>>>
> >>>> Some code may perform racy by design memory reads. This could be
> >>>> harmless, yet such code may produce KASAN warnings.
> >>>>
> >>>> To hide such accesses from KASAN this patch introduces
> >>>> READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() macro. KASAN will not check the memory
> >>>> accessed by READ_ONCE_NOCHECK().
> >>>>
> >>>> This patch creates __read_once_size_nocheck() a clone of
> >>>> __read_once_size_check() (renamed __read_once_size()).
> >>>> The only difference between them is 'no_sanitized_address'
> >>>> attribute appended to '*_nocheck' function. This attribute tells
> >>>> the compiler that instrumentation of memory accesses should not
> >>>> be applied to that function. We declare it as static
> >>>> '__maybe_unsed' because GCC is not capable to inline such
> >>>> function: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=67368
> >>>>
> >>>> With KASAN=n READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() is just a clone of READ_ONCE().
> >>>
> >>> So I add READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() for accesses for which the compiler cannot
> >>> prove safe address for KASAN's benefit, but READ_ONCE() suffices for
> >>> the data-race-detection logic in KTSAN, correct?
> >>
> >> KTSAN also needs READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() here.
> >
> > Does it? What's the difference between READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() and READ_ONCE() with KTSAN=y?
> > AFAIK READ_ONCE() is sufficient to hide race from KTSAN. It doesn't *require* READ_ONCE_NOCHECK(), right?
>
>
> For not there is no difference, because you just added
> READ_ONCE_NOCHECK and we have not yet supported it.
> But my plan is to completely ignore accessed from READ_ONCE_NOCHECK in
> KTSAN so that they never lead to race reports.
>
> READ_ONCE in get_wchan still can lead to a data race report, because
> it is READ_ONCE in get_wchan versus a normal write to stack in the
> other thread. That is not atomic and not generally safe.
Where possible, it would be better to make the normal write instead
be WRITE_ONCE(). That might well not be possible here, but let's not
be too aggressive about silencing KTSAN.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-14 17:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-13 12:35 [PATCH v2 0/2] Silence KASAN warnings in get_wchan() Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-13 12:35 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] Provide READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-13 14:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-13 16:02 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-13 16:31 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-14 13:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-14 14:11 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-13 12:35 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] x86/process: Silence KASAN warnings in get_wchan() Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-13 13:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-13 13:57 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-13 13:57 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-10-13 14:15 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-13 14:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-13 15:28 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] " Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-13 15:28 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] Provide READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-14 15:28 ` [tip:locking/urgent] compiler, atomics: Provide READ_ONCE_NOCHECK () tip-bot for Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-14 15:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-14 15:50 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-10-14 16:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-14 16:08 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-10-14 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-14 16:18 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-10-14 16:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-14 16:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-14 16:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-14 17:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-14 17:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-14 16:34 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-10-14 16:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-14 16:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-14 16:32 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-10-14 17:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-14 17:23 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-10-14 17:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-14 16:19 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-14 16:29 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-10-14 17:06 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-10-15 9:18 ` linux-next: build problems (Was: [PATCH v3 1/2] Provide READ_ONCE_NOCHECK()) Stephen Rothwell
2015-10-15 10:03 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-15 10:19 ` [PATCH] compiler, READ_ONCE: Fix build failure with some older GCC Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-15 11:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-13 15:28 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] x86/process: Silence KASAN warnings in get_wchan() Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-14 15:29 ` [tip:locking/urgent] x86/mm: Silence KASAN warnings in get_wchan( ) tip-bot for Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-16 9:44 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-16 9:44 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] compiler, atomics: Provide READ_ONCE_NOKSAN() Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-16 10:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-16 10:54 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-16 11:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-16 10:33 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-10-16 11:58 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-18 7:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-16 16:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-16 9:44 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] x86/mm: Silence KASAN warnings in get_wchan() Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-16 9:47 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] " Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-19 8:37 ` [PATCH v5 " Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-19 8:37 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] compiler, atomics: Provide READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-20 9:37 ` [tip:x86/urgent] compiler, atomics, kasan: " tip-bot for Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-19 8:37 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] x86/mm: Silence KASAN warnings in get_wchan() Andrey Ryabinin
2015-10-20 9:37 ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86/mm, kasan: " tip-bot for Andrey Ryabinin
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