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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] stop_machine: ensure that a queued callback will be called before cpu_stop_park()
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:02:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151015170247.GA26019@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151014203245.GW3604@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 10/14, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 09:03:56PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 10/14, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 04:51:31PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Note also that smpboot_thread_call() calls cpu_stop_unpark() which
> > > > sets enabled == T at CPU_ONLINE stage, so this CPU can't go away until
> > > > cpu_stopper_thread() is called at least once. This all means that if
> > > > cpu_stop_queue_work() succeeds, we know that work->fn() will be called.
> > >
> > > This hard relies on the fact that cpu_down uses stop machine, right?
> >
> > Not really.
> >
> > > IIRC part of the hotplug rework Thomas is doing is geared towards
> > > breaking away from stop machine. There is nothing fundamental about
> > > hot-unplug that requires stop machine.
> >
> > cpu_down() should park/kill/whatever the percpu stopper thread anyway.
> > And this path should clear ->enabled, it can also flush the pending
> > works.
>
> So the proposed patch does: ->enabled=false; park();, which can race
> with if (->enabled) wake();

Yes, so I added the comment to explain that this is fine.

> smpboot_thread_fn() will not call ->thread_fn() when should_park(), and
> thus any pending work will not get flushed.
>
> It only works now because the stopper task calls park(), which means
> cpu_stopper_thread() will flush, but that very much relies on the
> stopper thread calling park in itself.

Yes. IOW, this relies on ->selfparking == T which implies "flush before
park".


But even if we change cpu_down() to avoid stop_machine() I think we need
to keep this "selfparking" logic. In a sense that, for example, this code

	void func(int cpu, cpu_stop_fn_t fn)
	{
		get_online_cpus();
		if (cpu_online(cpu) {
			int ret = stop_one_cpu(cpu, fn, NULL);
			BUG_ON(ret == -ENOENT);
		}
		put_online_cpus();
	}

should be correct. Actually this example is not very good, it would
be better to use stop_one_cpu_nowait() but currently it returns "void"
and hmm, it looks buggy ;) I'll send the fix on top of this series if
you accept it.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-15 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-07  8:41 [RFC][PATCH] sched: Start stopper early Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 12:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-07 12:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 13:20     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-07 13:24       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-07 13:36       ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-08 14:50 ` [PATCH 0/3] (Was: [RFC][PATCH] sched: Start stopper early) Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-08 14:51   ` [PATCH 1/3] stop_machine: ensure that a queued callback will be called before cpu_stop_park() Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-14 15:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-14 19:03       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-14 20:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-15 17:02           ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-10-16 10:49             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-20  9:32     ` [tip:sched/core] stop_machine: Ensure " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-08 14:51   ` [PATCH 2/3] stop_machine: introduce __cpu_stop_queue_work() and cpu_stop_queue_two_works() Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-20  9:33     ` [tip:sched/core] stop_machine: Introduce " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-08 14:51   ` [PATCH 3/3] stop_machine: change cpu_stop_queue_two_works() to rely on stopper->enabled Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-08 15:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-08 15:59       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-08 16:08         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-08 17:01     ` [PATCH v2 " Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-09 16:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-09 16:40         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-20  9:33       ` [tip:sched/core] stop_machine: Change " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-08 18:05 ` [RFC][PATCH] sched: Start stopper early Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-08 18:47   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-09 16:00 ` [PATCH 0/3] make stopper threads more "selfparking" Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-09 16:00   ` [PATCH 1/3] stop_machine: kill smp_hotplug_thread->pre_unpark, introduce stop_machine_unpark() Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-20  9:33     ` [tip:sched/core] stop_machine: Kill smp_hotplug_thread-> pre_unpark, " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-09 16:00   ` [PATCH 2/3] stop_machine: kill cpu_stop_threads->setup() and cpu_stop_unpark() Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-20  9:34     ` [tip:sched/core] stop_machine: Kill " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-09 16:00   ` [PATCH 3/3] sched: start stopper early Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-09 16:49     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-10-20  9:34     ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Start " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-16  8:22 ` [RFC][PATCH] " Heiko Carstens
2015-10-16  9:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-16 12:01     ` Heiko Carstens
2015-10-26 14:24       ` Michael Holzheu
2015-10-26 20:20         ` Peter Zijlstra

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