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From: Nicholas Mc Guire <der.herr@hofr.at>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Nicholas Mc Guire <hofrat@osadl.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] timer: drop the unnecessary while loop in msleep
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 12:48:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160112124854.GA26074@osadl.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1601110905180.3575@nanos>

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 09:15:25AM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Jan 2016, Nicholas Mc Guire wrote:
> 
> >  The while loop in msleep does not seem necessary as
> > timeout is unsigned long and no larger than MAX_JIFFY_OFFSET (which is
> > LONG_MAX/2 - 1) so the while-loop condition is always true at the beginning
> > (msecs_to_jiffies will return >=0 always and with the +1 timeout is >= 1 so
> > the while condition is always true at the start) and
> > schedule_timeout_uninterruptible always returns 0, so the while loop always
> > terminates after the first loop.
> 
> Err, no. schedule_timeout_uninterruptible() can return > 0 when there was a
> non timer wakeup. Thinks spurious wakeups. So we need that loop.

ok - thanks - was following the comment in schedule_timeout which states:
/**
 * schedule_timeout - sleep until timeout
 * @timeout: timeout value in jiffies
 *
 * Make the current task sleep until @timeout jiffies have
 * elapsed. The routine will return immediately unless
 * the current task state has been set (see set_current_state()).
 *
 * You can set the task state as follows -
 *
 * %TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE - at least @timeout jiffies are guaranteed to
 * pass before the routine returns. The routine will return 0
<snip>

So I had assumed that would not actualy be possible given this comment.
Is the while(timeout) loop im msleep() just defensive programming or is 
there a spurious timer wakeup path that defeats TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE ? 
Probably a stupid question but I was unable to figure out how such an 
wakeup would occure.

>  
> > Q: what is the purpose of the + 1 offset to the jiffies here ?
> > 
> > msleep was introduced in 2.6.7 but without the + 1, so with:
> > 	unsigned long timeout = msecs_to_jiffies(msecs);
> > in 2.6.10-rc2 the msecs_to_jiffies(msecs) + 1; is introduced.
> > Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com> (https://lkml.org/lkml/2004/11/19/294)
> > seems to be the origin while converting msleep to a macro, but no reason
> > for the + 1 is given there.
> 
> Not really. The +1 was introduced with the following commit:
> 
> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/tglx/history.git/commit/kernel/timer.c?id=c259ef842622a5e64418d9dab3b62ee051867edf
>

thanks - was ignorant of history.git being available.
will go try and understand where that "lost jiffie" could come from.

thx!
hofrat

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-12 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-09 11:01 Nicholas Mc Guire
2016-01-11  8:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-01-12 12:48   ` Nicholas Mc Guire [this message]
2016-01-12 13:53     ` Thomas Gleixner

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