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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>
Cc: Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] nmi_backtrace: generate one-line reports for idle cpus
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 18:17:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160321171738.GE6344@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56F02B87.2000307@mellanox.com>

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 01:12:39PM -0400, Chris Metcalf wrote:
> I do see mwait used in the ACPI 4.0 Processor Aggregator Device driver, but
> this seems sufficiently far removed from regular cpuidle that I don't
> think it's appropriate to tag the power_saving_thread() function -
> the initial commit talks about using the mechanism "to ride-out
> transient electrical and thermal emergencies."
> 
> There's also the thermal "powerclamp" driver that enforces a particular
> amount of idle time across the system.  For this one it's less clear to
> me whether this is a valid "idle" state that we should ignore when doing
> NMI backtracing.  This would be the clamp_thread() function in
> drivers/thermal/intel_powerclamp.c.  For now I'm not including it,
> but what do you think?

Both the acpi power aggregator and the powerclamp driver are forced idle
and have some serious issues, so are safe to ignore for now.

Also, I would explicitly not include them, because forced idle might
still be interesting.


> ># nm -n ivb-ep-build/vmlinux | awk '/__cpuidle_text_start/ {p=1} {if (p) print $0} /__cpuidle_text_end/ {p=0}'
> >ffffffff81b16ca8 T __cpuidle_text_start
> >ffffffff81b16cb0 T default_idle
> >ffffffff81b16e50 t mwait_idle
> >ffffffff81b17080 t cpu_idle_poll
> >ffffffff81b17280 T default_idle_call
> >ffffffff81b172be T __cpuidle_text_end
> >
> >So no intel_idle for me..
> 
> With the changes discussed so far in this email thread, we've gotten to:
> 
> ffffffff818df178 T __cpuidle_text_start
> ffffffff818df180 T default_idle
> ffffffff818df260 t mwait_idle
> ffffffff818df3f0 T acpi_processor_ffh_cstate_enter
> ffffffff818df4a0 T default_idle_call
> ffffffff818df4e0 t cpu_idle_poll

> ffffffff818df600 t intel_idle_freeze

You can skip this one, that only happens when you suspend to idle.

> ffffffff818df6a0 t intel_idle
> ffffffff818df7b5 T __cpuidle_text_end
> 
> This is about 1,600 bytes (or about 450 instructions) that will cause
> NMI to skip doing a backtrace if the PC is anywhere in the range.

Yeah, the alternative is making mwait_idle_with_hints an actual
function, but then we get to somehow exclude the other users like the
forced idle stuff.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-21 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-29 21:40 [PATCH 0/4] improvements to the nmi_backtrace code Chris Metcalf
2016-02-29 21:40 ` [PATCH 1/4] nmi_backtrace: add more trigger_*_cpu_backtrace() methods Chris Metcalf
2016-02-29 21:40 ` [PATCH 2/4] nmi_backtrace: generate one-line reports for idle cpus Chris Metcalf
2016-03-01 14:23   ` Daniel Thompson
2016-03-01 16:01     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-07  8:26       ` Daniel Thompson
2016-03-07 17:05         ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-07  9:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-07 17:38         ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-07 20:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 17:02             ` [PATCH v2 0/4] improvements to the nmi_backtrace code Chris Metcalf
2016-03-16 17:02               ` [PATCH v2 1/4] nmi_backtrace: add more trigger_*_cpu_backtrace() methods Chris Metcalf
2016-03-17 19:36                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-17 22:31                   ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-17 22:38                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-17 22:41                       ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-17 23:14                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-17 22:55                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-17 23:09                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-17 23:11                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-18  0:28                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-18  0:17                     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-18  0:33                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-18  9:40                         ` Daniel Thompson
2016-03-18 23:54                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-16 17:02               ` [PATCH v2 2/4] nmi_backtrace: do a local dump_stack() instead of a self-NMI Chris Metcalf
2016-03-16 17:02               ` [PATCH v2 3/4] arch/tile: adopt the new nmi_backtrace framework Chris Metcalf
2016-03-16 17:02               ` [PATCH v2 4/4] nmi_backtrace: generate one-line reports for idle cpus Chris Metcalf
2016-03-16 18:46                 ` kbuild test robot
2016-03-21 15:38                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-21 15:46                   ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-21 15:42                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-21 16:15                   ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-21 16:32                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-21 17:12                       ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-21 17:17                         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-03-21 16:48                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-21 21:49                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-22 17:19                   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] improvements to the nmi_backtrace code Chris Metcalf
2016-03-22 17:19                     ` [PATCH v3 1/4] nmi_backtrace: add more trigger_*_cpu_backtrace() methods Chris Metcalf
2016-03-22 17:19                     ` [PATCH v3 2/4] nmi_backtrace: do a local dump_stack() instead of a self-NMI Chris Metcalf
2016-03-22 17:19                     ` [PATCH v3 3/4] arch/tile: adopt the new nmi_backtrace framework Chris Metcalf
2016-03-22 17:19                     ` [PATCH v3 4/4] nmi_backtrace: generate one-line reports for idle cpus Chris Metcalf
2016-03-22 17:30                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-22 22:28                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-22 22:31                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-22 22:45                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-23  0:50                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-23  7:53                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-30 17:16                             ` [PATCH v4 0/4] improvements to the nmi_backtrace code Chris Metcalf
2016-03-30 17:16                               ` [PATCH v4 1/4] nmi_backtrace: add more trigger_*_cpu_backtrace() methods Chris Metcalf
2016-03-30 17:16                               ` [PATCH v4 2/4] nmi_backtrace: do a local dump_stack() instead of a self-NMI Chris Metcalf
2016-03-30 17:16                               ` [PATCH v4 3/4] arch/tile: adopt the new nmi_backtrace framework Chris Metcalf
2016-03-30 17:16                               ` [PATCH v4 4/4] nmi_backtrace: generate one-line reports for idle cpus Chris Metcalf
2016-02-29 21:40 ` [PATCH 3/4] nmi_backtrace: do a local dump_stack() instead of a self-NMI Chris Metcalf
2016-02-29 21:40 ` [PATCH 4/4] arch/tile: adopt the new nmi_backtrace framework Chris Metcalf
2016-03-01  0:49 ` [PATCH 0/4] improvements to the nmi_backtrace code Andrew Morton
2016-03-01 10:01   ` Petr Mladek

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