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From: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Jeffrey Merkey <jeffmerkey@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kbuild <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL v4.6]  MDB Linux Kernel Debugger x86/x86_64
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2016 12:48:38 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160326124838.512a230f@canb.auug.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160325083621.GA21959@gmail.com>

Hi Ingo,

On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:36:21 +0100 Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> So neither the x86 nor other affected maintainers have acked these changes or have 
> agreed to merge it - in fact there are outstanding NAKs against this tree, which 
> were not mentioned in the pull request.
> 
> Here's one of the objections by me:
> 
>    https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/1/29/64
> 
> ... which technical objections were replied to by Jeff Merkey by accusing me of 
> trolling:
> 
>   "You were not included on the post since you are not a maintainer of watchdog.c
>    so I am confused as to why you are nacking and trolling me on something not in
>    your area."
> 
>    https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/1/29/397
> 
> So this tree is very far from being ready and I'm not convinced we want to merge 
> it in its current form. If we merge bits of it then we want to merge it via the 
> x86 tree, not a separate tree.
> 
> In fact I also have more fundamental objections as well, such as the question of 
> unnecessary code duplication: this new MDB debugger overlaps in functionality with 
> the already in-tree kgdb+KDB live kernel debugger approach:
> 
> I don't think we want to see two overlapping solutions in this area, both of which 
> are inferior in their own ways. If then the KDB frontend should be improved: 
> features such as disassembler output, more commands and usability improvements 
> that can and should be added to the KDB front-end instead. I see nothing in this 
> patch that couldn't be added to KDB/KGDB.
> 
> All in one, I'd much rather like to see a gradual set of improvement patches to 
> KDB, to improve live kernel debugging, than this kind of monolithic, arch 
> dependent duplication of functionality.

Thanks for your input clarifying the situation.
-- 
Cheers,
Stephen Rothwell

      parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-26  1:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-14 23:50 Jeffrey Merkey
2016-03-14 23:57 ` Joe Perches
2016-03-15  0:24   ` Stephen Rothwell
2016-03-15  0:40     ` Jeffrey Merkey
2016-03-15  2:03       ` Stephen Rothwell
2016-03-15 15:16         ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-16 23:27           ` Jeffrey Merkey
2016-03-18  5:31             ` Jeffrey Merkey
2016-03-18  5:40               ` Joe Perches
2016-03-18  5:43                 ` Jeffrey Merkey
2016-03-25  8:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-25 17:17       ` Jeffrey Merkey
2016-03-25 17:27         ` Jeffrey Merkey
2016-03-25 23:01           ` Jeffrey Merkey
2016-03-25 23:02             ` Jeffrey Merkey
2016-03-26  1:48             ` Stephen Rothwell
2016-03-26  1:56               ` Jeffrey Merkey
2016-03-26  1:48       ` Stephen Rothwell [this message]

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