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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leon@leon.nu>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Dennis Dalessandro <dennis.dalessandro@intel.com>,
	dledford@redhat.com, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write() and use ioctl() for user access
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 20:19:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160416191917.GY25498@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160416060042.GA6349@leon.nu>

On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:00:42AM +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 05:37:32PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:23:28AM +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > 
> > > Intel as usual decided to do it in their way and the result is presented
> > > on this mailing list.
> > 
> > Dennis was pretty clear he was going to send the patches to address
> > Al's concern, which he has done.
> > 
> > I was also pretty clear I was looking to get rid of the char dev :)
> 
> Yes, and I was pretty clear that we need to converge on one common API
> prior to converting old code (including drivers in staging) in order to
> do it once only.

While we are at it, could the person who'd come up with ui_lseek() be located
and made to stand up and explain the rationale behind the SEEK_END semantics
therein?  To quote the manpage (and paraphrase just about any introductory
textbook):
       SEEK_END
              The file offset is set to the size of the file plus offset bytes.

I'm really curious - which part of "plus" might have lead to
        case SEEK_END:
                offset = ((dd->kregend - dd->kregbase) + DC8051_DATA_MEM_SIZE) -
                        offset;
and, if its author has decided that of course it _must_ have meant "minus",
why had he or she failed to post a correction to the manpage?  Or, on the
off-chance that this "plus" might have something to do with reality,
experimented with some file, for that matter.

Folks, this is a well-earned "F".  And not just for Unix Programming 101 -
the same semantics applies to fseek(3), which is a part of C standard.
Incidentally, lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_END) is "seek to end", not "fail with EINVAL".

As for the use of ioctl...  Frankly, considering the above, it does sound like
"that'll make them STFU about the weirdness - ioctl *is* weird, so there!"

Single-consumer APIs stink, film at 11...

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-16 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-14 15:41 Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 1/7] IB/hfi1: Export drivers user sw version via sysfs Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-18 13:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 2/7] IB/hfi1: Remove unused user command Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-18 13:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 3/7] IB/hfi1: Add ioctl() interface for user commands Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 4/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write(), use ioctl() for user cmds Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:42 ` [PATCH 5/7] IB/hfi1: Add trace message in user IOCTL handling Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:42 ` [PATCH 6/7] IB/hfi1: Consolidate IOCTL defines Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:42 ` [PATCH 7/7] IB/hfi1: Move eprom to its own device Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 16:45 ` [PATCH 0/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write() and use ioctl() for user access Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-14 17:48   ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-14 18:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-14 18:42       ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 18:56         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-15  4:01     ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 16:17       ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-15 17:30         ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 17:34           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-15 17:44             ` Woodruff, Robert J
2016-04-15 21:03               ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 17:46             ` Hefty, Sean
2016-04-15 21:23             ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 23:28               ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-16  6:09                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-16 15:29                   ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-15 23:37               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-16  6:00                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-16 19:19                   ` Al Viro [this message]
2016-04-18 12:00                     ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 17:52   ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 18:46     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-20 20:36     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-22 18:38       ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-26 15:23         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-18 13:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-18 17:40     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-18 18:24       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-19  3:45         ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-19 18:40           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-19 17:38         ` Jason Gunthorpe

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