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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Dennis Dalessandro <dennis.dalessandro@intel.com>,
	dledford@redhat.com, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write() and use ioctl() for user access
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 11:40:47 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160418174047.GB13865@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160418130909.GD11508@infradead.org>

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 06:09:09AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:45:50AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 08:41:35AM -0700, Dennis Dalessandro wrote:
> > > This patch series removes the write() interface for user access in favor of an
> > > ioctl() based approach. This is in response to the complaint that we had
> > > different handlers for write() and writev() doing different things and expecting
> > > different types of data. See:
> > 
> > I think we should wait on applying these patches until we globally sort out
> > what to do with the rdma uapi.
> > 
> > It just doesn't make alot of sense for drivers to have their own personal
> > char devices. :(
> 
> I looked through the patches I tend to disagree - while we should wait
> for a global UAPI for anything that's actually RDMA/verbs related these
> seem to be misc little bits specific to the driver that have no business
> in any sort of generic RDMA API.

I wasn't arguing this should integrate into verbs in some way, only
that the way to access the driver-specific uAPI of a RDMA device should
be through the RDMA common uAPI and not through a random char dev.

.. and of course that the driver-specific API be subject to a sane
review and use of the normal standards, not just written off as
driver-garbage nobody cares about. :(

For instance, if we had a driver specific channel, it casts this
endless stream of uAPI verbs patches in a different light: maybe they
should go down the driver-specific channel instead.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-18 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-14 15:41 Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 1/7] IB/hfi1: Export drivers user sw version via sysfs Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-18 13:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 2/7] IB/hfi1: Remove unused user command Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-18 13:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 3/7] IB/hfi1: Add ioctl() interface for user commands Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:41 ` [PATCH 4/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write(), use ioctl() for user cmds Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:42 ` [PATCH 5/7] IB/hfi1: Add trace message in user IOCTL handling Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:42 ` [PATCH 6/7] IB/hfi1: Consolidate IOCTL defines Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 15:42 ` [PATCH 7/7] IB/hfi1: Move eprom to its own device Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 16:45 ` [PATCH 0/7] IB/hfi1: Remove write() and use ioctl() for user access Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-14 17:48   ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-14 18:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-14 18:42       ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 18:56         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-15  4:01     ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 16:17       ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-15 17:30         ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 17:34           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-15 17:44             ` Woodruff, Robert J
2016-04-15 21:03               ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 17:46             ` Hefty, Sean
2016-04-15 21:23             ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-15 23:28               ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-16  6:09                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-16 15:29                   ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-15 23:37               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-16  6:00                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-16 19:19                   ` Al Viro
2016-04-18 12:00                     ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 17:52   ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-14 18:46     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-20 20:36     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-22 18:38       ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-04-26 15:23         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-18 13:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-18 17:40     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2016-04-18 18:24       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-19  3:45         ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-19 18:40           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-19 17:38         ` Jason Gunthorpe

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