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From: Marc Haber <mh+linux-kernel@zugschlus.de>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm ML <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Major KVM issues with kernel 4.5 on the host
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 20:43:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160423184341.GA21755@torres.zugschlus.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160423160429.GL8531@pd.tnic>

On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 06:04:29PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 10:04:33PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> > Yes, but there are two symptoms. The VM either suffers file system
> > issues (garbage read from files, or an aborted ext4 journal and
> > following ro remount) or it stops dead in its tracks.
> 
> Stops dead? What does that mean exactly? Box is wedged solid and it
> doesn't react to any key presses?

No ping, no reaction on serial console, no reaction on virtual
console, no syslog entries.

> Because if so, this could really be a DRAM going bad and a correctable
> error turning into an uncorrectable. How old is the DRAM in that box?
> Judging by your CPU, it should be a couple of years...

Uncorrectable errors would still be identified by the ECC hardware,
and the box wouldn't be perfectly fine with an "old" kernel.

> > The box reports about one correctable error per week, so I probably
> > have a faulty DIMM, but since the issue only surfaces in VMs while the
> > host system is in perfect working order...
> 
> So it could be that correctable error turns into an uncorrectable one at
> some point. But then you should be getting an exception...

Yes, that would be in the logs.

> > And yes, I am pondering to simply replace the box with an Intel CPU.
> 
> Your CPU is fine, from what I've seen so far.

But we still postulate that the issue does only show on older AMD
CPUs. Otherwise, I wouldn't be the only one making this experience.

> > I go the way of Debian packages since it is easier to handle the
> > crypto file systems when the machine is booting up.
> 
> As long as you're testing the correct bisection kernels...

I am reasonably sure about that, yes.

> > And yes, I think about doing a test reinstall on unencrypted disk to
> > find out whether encryption plays a role, but I currently need the
> > machine to urgently to take it out of serice for half a month, and,
> > again, the host system is in perfect working order, it is just VMs
> > that barf.
> 
> Yeah, I can't reproduce it here and I have a very similar box to yours
> which is otherwise idle, more or less.
> 
> Another fact which points to potentially DIMM going bad...

Do you want me to memtest for 24 hours?

Greetings
Marc

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-23 18:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-17 16:54 Marc Haber
2016-03-17 18:11 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-03-18 10:01   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-13 18:37     ` Marc Haber
2016-04-13 20:36       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-13 20:52         ` Marc Haber
2016-04-13 22:29         ` Marc Haber
2016-04-14  1:16           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-14  5:22             ` Marc Haber
2016-04-21  8:39               ` Marc Haber
2016-04-21 12:37                 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-04-21 14:50                   ` Marc Haber
2016-04-21 16:51                     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-04-21 20:04                       ` Marc Haber
2016-04-23 16:04                         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-04-23 18:43                           ` Marc Haber [this message]
2016-04-23 18:52                             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-05-12 20:20                               ` transparent huge pages breaks KVM on AMD Marc Haber
2016-05-12 20:24                                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-05-12 20:34                                   ` Marc Haber
2016-05-12 20:42                                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-05-13  5:23                                       ` Marc Haber
2016-05-13  8:07                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-05-13  8:09                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-05-13 13:21                                             ` Marc Haber
2016-05-13 16:08                                               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-05-14  6:19                                             ` Marc Haber
2016-05-13  9:08                                           ` Marc Haber
2016-05-13  9:19                                             ` Borislav Petkov
2016-05-13 14:59                                           ` Marc Haber
2016-05-13  8:35                                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-05-13 14:03                                   ` Marc Haber
2016-04-23 23:57                             ` Major KVM issues with kernel 4.5 on the host Borislav Petkov
2016-04-14  6:07             ` Marc Haber
2016-04-14 16:47             ` Marc Haber
2016-04-14 17:30               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-14 17:47                 ` Marc Haber
2016-03-18 18:49   ` Marc Haber
2016-03-18 22:04     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-03-19  0:08       ` Marc Haber
2016-03-20 13:31         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-03-20 17:14           ` Andrey Korolyov
2016-03-20 18:25             ` Borislav Petkov
2016-03-20 18:42               ` Andrey Korolyov
2016-03-20 18:58                 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-04-13 18:22                   ` Marc Haber
2016-04-13 20:37                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-04-13 18:20           ` Marc Haber
2016-03-21  9:08         ` Paolo Bonzini

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