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From: Jessica Yu <jeyu@redhat.com>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: jpoimboe@redhat.com, mbenes@suse.cz, jikos@kernel.org,
	jslaby@suse.cz, live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, huawei.libin@huawei.com,
	minfei.huang@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: livepatch: Avoid possible race when releasing the patch
Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 17:35:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160523213540.GC12954@packer-debian-8-amd64.digitalocean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1464018848-4303-1-git-send-email-pmladek@suse.com>

+++ Petr Mladek [23/05/16 17:54 +0200]:
>There was a long discussion about a possible race with sysfs, kobjects
>when removing an unused livepatch, see
>https://lkml.kernel.org/g/%3C1462190242-24731-1-git-send-email-mbenes@suse.cz%3E
>
>This patch set tries to implement what looked the most preferred solution
>from the discussion. I did my best to keep the patch definition simple.
>But I am not super happy with the result.
>
>I send the current state before I spent even more time on different
>approaches.
>
>I personally think that we might get better result if we declare
>some limited structures, define them statically and then copy all
>data into the final structures in a single call. I did not implement
>this because it was weird on the first look but I am not sure now.
>
>But even more I would prefer the solution with the completion.
>It is already used by the module framework. It does not look
>that hacky to me after all.

Hi Petr, thanks a lot for the RFC and for exploring this possible
solution. I haven't reviewed the patches thoroughly yet, but at first
glance I admit that I did not think through how much this approach
would complicate the livepatch API, and the new intermediary functions
do seem like overkill in response to the original kobject problem..

I looked at how the module loader used the completion, and in fact
it is used to remedy a nearly identical problem with
DEBUG_KOBJ_RELEASE (see commit 942e443 "Fix mod->mkobj.kobj
potentially freed too early"), and Miroslav's original solution pretty
much took the same approach. We could even mirror that approach and
have something like klp_kobject_put() (much like mod_kobject_put()) to
package up the kobject_put/wait_for_completion calls, but that is
purely a matter of taste.

Anyway, I am just beginning to lean towards the completion solution
again (sorry for jumping back and forth :-/), but we can play with
this patchset a bit more and see if we can come up with something
reasonable.

Thanks,
Jessica

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-23 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-23 15:54 [RFC PATCH 0/2] " Petr Mladek
2016-05-23 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] livepatch: Extend the livepatch-sample patch Petr Mladek
2016-05-23 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] livepatch: Use kobjects the right way Petr Mladek
2016-05-23 16:30 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] livepatch: Avoid possible race when releasing the patch Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-23 21:35 ` Jessica Yu [this message]
2016-05-25  8:58   ` Miroslav Benes
2016-05-30 15:31     ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-31 18:40       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-31 19:00       ` Jessica Yu

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