From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hpe.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
ggherdovich@suse.com, Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
1vier1@web.de
Subject: Re: sem_lock() vs qspinlocks
Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 12:57:44 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160524105744.GV3193@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fad29add-e019-9af2-0220-40b9f4205568@colorfullife.com>
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 03:49:20PM +0200, Manfred Spraul wrote:
> >I'm tempted to put that trailing smp_rmb() in spin_unlock_wait() too;
> >because I suspect the netfilter code is broken without it.
> >
> >And it seems intuitive to assume that if we return from unlock_wait() we
> >can indeed observe the critical section we waited on.
> Then !spin_is_locked() and spin_unlock_wait() would be different with
> regards to memory barriers.
> Would that really help?
We could fix that I think; something horrible like:
static __always_inline int queued_spin_is_locked(struct qspinlock *lock)
{
int locked;
smp_mb();
locked = atomic_read(&lock->val) & _Q_LOCKED_MASK;
smp_acquire__after_ctrl_dep();
return locked;
}
Which if used in a conditional like:
spin_lock(A);
if (spin_is_locked(B)) {
spin_unlock(A);
spin_lock(B);
...
}
would still provide the ACQUIRE semantics required. The only difference
is that it would provide it to _both_ branches, which might be a little
more expensive.
> My old plan was to document the rules, and define a generic
> smp_acquire__after_spin_is_unlocked.
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/3/1/153
Yeah; I more or less forgot all that.
Now, I too think having the thing documented is good; _however_ I also
think having primitives that actually do what you assume them to is a
good thing.
spin_unlock_wait() not actually serializing against the spin_unlock() is
really surprising and subtle.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-24 10:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-20 5:39 Davidlohr Bueso
2016-05-20 7:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 15:00 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-05-20 15:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 15:25 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-05-20 15:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 20:47 ` Waiman Long
2016-05-20 20:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-21 0:59 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-05-21 4:01 ` Waiman Long
2016-05-21 7:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 7:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 8:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 8:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 9:07 ` Giovanni Gherdovich
2016-05-20 9:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 8:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 9:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 10:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-05-20 10:45 ` Mel Gorman
2016-05-20 11:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 14:05 ` Boqun Feng
2016-05-20 15:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 16:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 17:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-05-20 21:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 21:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-05-21 0:48 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-05-21 2:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-05-21 7:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-21 13:49 ` Manfred Spraul
2016-05-24 10:57 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-05-21 17:14 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-05-23 12:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-23 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-05-25 6:37 ` Boqun Feng
2016-05-22 8:43 ` Manfred Spraul
2016-05-22 9:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 16:20 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-05-20 20:44 ` Waiman Long
2016-05-20 20:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
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